Freedom should be free

Freedom should be free
http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2009/11/freedom-should-be-free.html

ABSTRACT: The central theme of this piece is about Freedom of Speech; a hallmark of civil societies. No matter how hateful or ugly people get, we should not curb it, as ultimately freedom stands to gain more for the society, things will wash out. We also have to recognize the inhumanity among us when it comes to the pain of others, that will put us on a higher plateau of finding solutions.

In case of Gaza, the people of Israel, Palestine and Jews around the world are divided, please remember on national issues like this, only fanatics have clear positions, the majority debates the concerns to find lasting and just solutions. The media does not present you with the extraordinary Jewish efforts to do the right thing or the struggles of the Palestinians to be fair given the conditions they are pushed into.

In case of Kashmir, the Indians, Pakistanis and Kashmiris, the Indian Goverment, Indian Media, Scholars and humanists are all divided. The position taking has protracted the conflict, it is time we think in term of long terms solutions that are sustainable; fairness and justness guaranty peace.

If denying the rights of others, or bulldozing the rights of others was the case, the problems would have gone away. It is easy to be jingoist, it gets short term support, but in long haul fairness prevails.

FREEDOM SHOULD BE FREE

I was reading one of the posts on the Face book about Kashmir conflict, as usual a majority of the comments sought solutions, a few, spewed hatred. I have pondered over the discussions on conflicts like Gaza and the tragedy of her people. In both the cases, it is appalling to read the degree of degeneration of humanity between the few Pakistanis, Indians, Kashmiris on one hand, and Palestinians, Israelis and the Jews on the other hand. The good news is that only a fraction of the each group of people is ugly for the time being, until they are given a chance to turn around; the majority of them are good people, to which I might add, good for nothing.

As a part of the solution, a few wanted limitations on freedom of speech. I'd like you to consider your own argument against such an idea, and instead go to the root of it and bring about a change through education and free will. Let Freedom be free.

Freedom is gutsy, you wouldn't be afraid to debate and discuss an issue. Ultimately what sustains is participatory decissions. If you clamp down on others, it is because you are afraid and that is a legitimate fear, as one day the tables will turn. Each one of us has to reap what we sow. Taking advantage of the other never works, you live in virtual fears if you do. It happens even among family members and spouse. There is an automated spiritual balance in each one of us. Vanja my friend shared a video on Freedom, it is worth watching, the link is at the bottom. That is the kind of relationship we ought to conder nurturing with the members of our family and friends; to be ourselves and to be free. Real bonding comes from freedom.

Hate is bonding, with it; one is reduced to slavery and becomes worthless to himself and the society. Whenever you think of the person you hate, it makes your blood boil, it makes you run or even violent, it makes you shiver and really makes you worthless for the next few moments until you regain control of yourselves and obtain your freedom back again.

If you justify any killing be it in Kashmir, Gaza or Darfur, you have to ask yourselves, if one killing is justified over the other, because they killed, you have a right to destroy them to teach a lesson, then if they get the power to hurt you, are you saying revenge is fine? Would you like to continue the cycle? Are you willing to take the responsibility of being a murderer?

Your question that "they are the ones who are causing the problem" is short-sighted. Did you think you are the reason it is deteriorating? Are your actions and words mitigating it? If you have the gun would you want to silence them, aren't they doing the same? Are you any better than those murderers?

We have to question our inhumanity, can we justify killing in any shape and form. Killing one human is like killing the whole humanity says the Torah and Quran, the whole world is one family adds the Bhagvad Gita and Jesus says Love thy enemy. Why the heck are we abandoning our own teachings? These teachings should not be resisted because they are religious, instead think of the goodness religion brings to every one us.

One's language determines if one is a peace maker or yet to become one. If one is loaded with sewer in the tummy, bad smells comes out of his mouth or the pen. So we need to monitor ourselves; do my words and actions mitigate the conflict or aggravate it? What is the outcome I want, and how are my words and actions geared to achieve that. Let’s be the change we want to be as Mahatma Gandhi puts it.

As nations, it is our duty to keep law and order and faithfully guard the safety of every citizen. Hate is one of the many sources of disrupting the peace in a society and it is our responsibility to track down the source of such hate and work on mitigating it. We have an obligation to maintain a balance in the society. When we are at peace, we can generate peace and we can expect peace around us.

Mary Ann Thompson-Frenk of Memnosyne Foundation adds, we have to be conscious cultural co- creators of the change we desire. Eboo Patel shares that while other people are spending their time derailing peace and societal balance, we have to focus on matching or exceeding goodness. Prophet Muhammad had said, the only way to combat evil is overwhelming goodness. He even prayed for people who were hurting him, because he believed in invoking the goodness in others. Jesus said, love thy enemy, to which I add, our role in the world as peace makers or religious persons ought is to mitigate conflicts and nurture good will for peace and security of each one of us.

Religion has never been the problem or source of conflict, although some of us find it convenient to ascribe the problems to it, that ain't going to absolve us of the responsibility. It is the individual who drives people into wars, hate and destruction. The verbal wars of Bush and Ahmedinejad escalated the issue and have flared up the conflicts. If the idiots had resorted to fact finding, instead of showing off who is the greater bully; had they employed responsbility in figuring how to mitigate conflicts, the world would have been different today. If these guys can believ in one iota of their religion, they will be fine men. It is still not too late to stop the fiction that is added to it every day. If every one understands his own religion, problems fade and solutions would emerge.

If one is a peaceful and a loving person, only good things will come out of him/her. One needs to guard him or herself and find cures for storing hatred inside and finding a dump for hate. You cannot have peace outside, if your inside is not. Peace begins with you and I (Len Ellis, Dallas Peace Center).

The debate about freedom of speech perhaps exists from the day the society evolved with at least two people interacting. Ultimately freedom is the right thing, the Tsunamis will wash off, but the freedom prevails. Curbing freedom would have kept the world under wraps; women would not have had the freedom, the slavery would have continued, men would have continued to abuse the women and children, industries would have prospered on the sweat and blood of people, and you would have been a victim of it in one form or the other.

Freedom of speech should not be curbed; there have been times that the short term temptation to bring short term peace sounds right.

Freedom should be gauged in terms of individual freedom but tied to law and order at large. Hate speech intentionally disturbs law and order, incites people and as such it should be treated like a murder, a bomb, or a riot. However, one should not be made responsible for his intention, but the consequence of his actions.

Freedom is good, let it prevail.
The gains of curbing are short-term;
The temptations to clamp down may not be evil,
but let the free market find its own balance

Just watched a good youtube on freedom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTm7nkepLwE

Mike Ghouse is a thinker, writer speaker and an activist of pluralism, interfaith, co-existence, peace, Islam and India. He is a frequent guest at the TV, radio and print media offering pluralistic solutions to issues of the day. His websites and Blogs are listed on http://www.mikeghouse.net/

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Praying for Obama's death

Praying for Obama's death: evil, immoral, Biblically sanctioned
August 31, 6:35 PM
Anchorage Liberal Examiner

Mike Ghouse comment at the end of the article

http://www.examiner.com/x-19545-Anchorage-Liberal-Examiner~y2009m8d31-Praying-for-Obamas-death-evil-immoral-Biblically-sanctioned

It's well understood that right-wingers oppose the Obama Presidency and want to see him voted out next year. Some go so far as to publicly express their hope that the President will fail, letting their hatred of him supersede their (supposed) love of country. Now, though, an Arizona pastor has gone a step further; Steven Anderson wants the President to die of brain cancer, just like Ted Kennedy did. And he wants it to happen today.

On August 16th, Anderson preached:

"Why should Barack Obama melt like a snail? Why should Barack Obama die like the untimely birth of a woman? Why should his children be fatherless and his wife a widow, as we read in this passage?

Well, I will tell you why. Because, since Barack Obama thinks it is OK to use a salty solution, right, to abort the unborn, because that's how abortions are done, my friend, using salt -- and I would like to see Barack Obama melt like a snail tonight... And yet you're going to tell me that I'm supposed to pray for the socialist devil, murderer, infanticide, who wants to see young children and he wants to see babies killed through abortion and partial-birth abortion and all these different things -- you're gonna tell me I'm supposed to pray for God to give him a good lunch tomorrow while he's in Phoenix, Arizona.

Nope. I'm not gonna pray for his good. I'm going to pray that he dies and goes to hell."

Later, rather than apologize for making abhorrent statements about the leader that the citizens of the United States elected, Anderson went even further: "I'd like to see him die, like Ted Kennedy, of brain cancer."

To the pastor's credit, at least he's not demanding Obama's head over the issue of health care reform.

And so yet another honorable "pro-life" person strides onto the national stage, sending letters to God begging for the Almighty to leave Michelle Obama a widow and Sasha and Malia fatherless because Obama dared to respect the law of the United States. This honorable "pro-life" person bragged about his parishioners carrying guns to church, and was nothing but proud when one of his own, a man named Christopher Broughton, attended a Phoenix event featuring President Obama while carrying a loaded rifle. The event was one day after Anderson's "death to Obama" sermon.

There's nothing factually wrong with this vile fundamentalist rhetoric. Anderson's prayers for the death of our democratically elected President stem from a Biblical command to kill all "murderers," which many sects of Christianity interpret as including people who have, provide or enable abortions. All this sick man is doing is following the word of the Bible as clearly stated. It's logical, if one accepts the laws of the Bible as true and does not cherry-pick, that Barack Obama, along with all abortion providers, women who have had abortions, administrators of hospitals that employ doctors who provide abortions, and so on should get a bullet between the eyes.

More moderate Christians are certainly quick to disown this man, as they did Scott Roeder, Michael Griffin, Paul Jennings Hill, John Salvi, Eric Rudolph, and James Kopp - and those are just the murderers. The list goes on; abortion providers have been shot, sent death threats and bomb threats and anthrax threats, assaulted, bombed, vandalized... They're just fundamentalists, just extremists, the moderate wing will say. How many people have to commit these appalling acts of violence before they become mainstream?

In the end, though, Anderson's just being a good Christian. He is following the literal word of the Bible because he believes that is the inerrant word of God. In addition to praying for the death of America's President, he's also given a sermon on the merits of killing homosexuals (who, he asserts, "recruit through rape"). It makes sense that his followers, being convinced that Barack Obama is, if not the Antichrist, an extremely evil man, and being in possession of firearms, should move to do justice upon him. Perhaps one of them will become convinced that he is God's tool for removing Barack Obama from office and from this world; in a community of religious fundamentalists, it's just as likely as a fundamentalist Muslim believing his holy duty is to become a suicide bomber.

Speaking of Muslims, how do you think the Christian right would feel if it were a Muslim man praying for the death of America's head of state?

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If it were a Muslim, it would have been a fodder for the likes of Beck, Limbaugh and the radicals among the Republican leadership and the hate mongers like Spencer, Emerson and their likes. They would have feasted for months.

Think about the congregation of Anderson, how could they tolerate a hate sermon? Would Jesus have approved this? No wonder Nation is moving towards Atheism, where at least they don't preach hate towards any one. Anderson, Hagee, Robertson, Falwell are the biggest anti-christ guys in our nation who teach exacatly opposite of the teachings of Jesus - Love and embrace God's creation.

Mike Ghouse is a thinker, writer speaker and an activist of pluralism, interfaith, co-existence, peace, Islam and India. He is a frequent guest at the TV, radio and print media offering pluralistic solutions to issues of the day. His websites and Blogs are listed on http://www.mikeghouse.net/

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Neocons of the World

This is a draft

A list of Neocons is being developed for watching what they write, speak and act upon. One of these days, I hope they can start talking about peace and co-existence with the same passion as the do with Chaos and hate.

The world is a beautiful place and an overwhelming majority of people want to get along with every one and focus on taking care of their family, Job and work towards living their dream.
However, about 1/10th of 1% of members in each group; be it religious, national, cultural, ethnic and racial group tend to be radical extremists.

They can be characterized by:

1. Driven by imaginary enemies
2. Lack of appetite for dialogue
3. My way or no way
4. God is on their side
5. Threaten others
6. Frightening the Gullible
7. Manufacturing facts
8. Not wanting to see another point of view
9. Making money by preying on the frightened.
10.

Most of the individuals listed below will pass many a criteria given above.

SMEAR CASTERS

Hear them out, how they manufacture enemies and their ridiculous suggestion to aggravate the conflicts. It is easy for them to talk about “eliminating the other” without realizing that the idea of eliminating other does not bring security, and instead makes every one insecure. They have no taste for a different point of view, you can see an occasional shock on their faces when they learn that there is another side to the issue.

1. David Horowitz
2. Bill O’Reilly
3. Debbie Schulessl
4. Pat Robertson
5. Michael Savage
6. Steve Emerson
7. Michelle Malkin
8. Glen Beck
9. Robert Spencer
10. Daniel Pipes
11. Mark Steyn
12. Sean Hannity
13. Bridgette

HATE PULPITS

When religion is driven from humility to arrogance, i.e., when some one makes the claim that my faith is superior to others, or my way is the right away, then it is not religion any more.

All religions are beautiful, it is the self appointed guardians who are on the wrong side, when they start denigrating other faiths to promote their own, then it is a hate sermon and not a religious one any more.

These guys are in every faith and continue to dupe a number of men and women to believe that they are in the hands of God himself or herself or itself. Any pulpit that inculcates hate, ill-will, and anger against others is not a religious pulpit; religion is about love and peace and not ill-will.

What can you do?

If your place of worship even remotely denigrates other forms of worship, tell them that you are in the place to be peaceful, kind and generous and not the other way around. It is perfectly alright to show how good their particular path helps one to achieve freedom and peace. Tell them that you do not want God to be misrepresented, let them know that God cares about his creation and has no interest in creating hate between his own creation. Unless you speak up, the evil men continue to reign.

To be religious is to be a peace maker, one who constantly seeks to mitigate conflicts and nurtures goodwill for peaceful co-existence of humanity. God wants us to live in peace and harmony with his creation; Life and Matter. If we can learn to accept the otherness of other and respect the God given uniqueness of each one of the 7 billion of us, then conflicts fade and solutions emerge.


1. Late Jerry Falwell
2. John Hagee
3. Osama Bin Laden
4. Rod Parsely
5. Ayatollah Khomeini
6. Pat Robertson

HATE EXECUTORS

These are the people in governance eager to act and destroy the other, believing that it will bring peace and security, their inadequacy in intelligence deprives them from evaluating a simple idea; "if you threaten others around you, you are likely to be reciprocated". Both sides will be entangled in the battle of destruction with no gains to any, but financial gains to these men.

Eager to Punish Politicians

01. Dick Cheney
02. Late Saddam Hussein (Iraq)
03. Geert Wilders (Sweden)
04. John McCain
05. Mitt Romney
06. Rudy Guiliani
07. George Bush
08. Sarah Palin
09. Mashall ______( Palestine)
10. Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel)
11. Israeli Lieberman (Israel)
12. Mahmoud Ahmedinejad (Iran)
14. Narendra Modi (India)
15.

HATE WRITERS

Their existence is based on having an enemy, some one lurking to pounce on them and all their strategy is based on this hallucination.

1. Ayaan Hirsi Ali
2. Walid Shoebat
3. Wafa Sultan
4. Charles Krauthammer
5. Bill Kristol
6. Nonie Darwish
7. Taslima Nasrin


CIVILIAN HATE MONGERS

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Nonie Darwish; a hate monger

http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2009/08/nonie-darwish-hate-monger.html

Islam bashing is an industry well funded by those who seek chaos. The greedy suckers like Nonie Darwish, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan and others fall for the money offers.

Do the people who fund hate talk, hate write and hate actions ever understand that solutions to a peaceful world, that they deeply desire does not come through hate, but from goodwill?

How can you bash some one and expect them to surrender to you willingly? I feel sorry for the old men who really get scared and open their check books to these tactics.

If my folks mess up my life in my childhood

Let me address the issues with “quotes” below key statement.

Joys of Muslim Women
By Nonie Darwish

In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child, consummating the marriage by 9.

Mike: The practice of asking one’s friends or relative’s son or daughter in marriage with their kids at birth is common, the medieval kings did it and in India it is still out there, that is called betrothed and not marriage. It has nothing to do with Islam; it is a practice in India and Egypt. Marriages are consummated when the girl is ready sexually and not before.

The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

Mike: It is a cultural practice in Hindu India as well as Muslim Egypt. In India, it is practiced by Christians as well. Men have burned the brides in India for not bringing the dowry – we cannot call that a Hindu or a Muslim practices, it is the practice of disgusting men and women. Does KKK reflect American Values? Did discrimination represented American values?

Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.

Mike: Baloney – Islam was one of the first religions that gave permission to women to seek marriages or divorces.

To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.

Mike: It’s to prevent a summary judgment against an innocent man. I will add some links about Sharia Laws in the next few questions.

Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and do not have to say why she was beaten.

Mike: Who is Nona duping? She can cash it as much as she can from the dumb suckers for this non-sense. I have witnessed many such incidents – the Jewish community in Los Angeles did a walk out on Wafa Sultan for the bogus lies she said about Muslims, and one of the producers showed a documentary on anti-Semitism in Europe with cooked up items to frighten the crap out of the older Jewish men and women and collect cash.

Read the full story: http://www.foundationforpluralism.com/Articles/Jewish-Muslim-dialogue-a-necessity.asp

The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.

Mike: The first part is true and 2nd Part is false. The Bush aggression in Iraq has put over quarter million women on the streets. The sole support for these women – husband, brother, father or a relative is killed in the mayhem. There is no one to care for them or feed them, they are selling flesh and perhaps with that goes STD’s. When a man gives them a shelter (all men, be it American, Chinese or Cherokees look for sex in them). The woman has lost her self esteem, and the whole society is affected by it with diseases of illicit sex and taking advantage of the needy. It is during this situation a man is allowed to marry up to four women – with the permission of his first wife to ensure it is not lust but social care. That woman needs to be given dignity and respect and not looked at as an object. Of course abuses and loopholes are always there; even our elected presidents have abused the power.

Most Muslims do not practice this, but some do it for lust. How many priests, Rabbis and Senators have been cheating on their wives? The Islamic method is legal method and I can see the value of it in Iraq, but I do not support that. I trust men to care for the women who are disadvantaged without taking advantage of them.

The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.

Mike: Shariah laws are for both men and women. They are not divine by any stretch of the imaginations, although in Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Pakistan and Afghnistan they have made attempts to call it divine. It has two parts: 1) Sharia for individuals - deals with the how to of worship and ii) Sharia for public – deals with crimes, inheritance, marriage, divorce etc– the intent was indeed justice, but over the years it has been abused and Muslims do not favor Sharia Laws and certainly Muslims in America, Canada and other democracies prefer the Civil laws of the society as they serve justice.

1) Visit the website: http://www.foundationforpluralism.com/WorldMuslimCongress.asp

2) Muslims are in America to live their American dream, and NOT to dominate or impose Sharia Laws. http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2009/05/5000-reward.html

3) No Sharia in America - http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2009/06/no-shariah-in-america.html

4) Sharia and political system - http://sharialaws.blogspot.com/2009/03/shariah-and-political-system.html

5) Understanding Sharia - http://sharialaws.blogspot.com/2008/03/sharia-value.html

More about Sharia at the end of this article:

In the Western World (America) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and the men can have full and complete control of the wife. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.

Mike: In the last month, I personally had six calls from women wanted to convert to Islam, as they have studied the right books and not the ones dished out by hate mongers. I discourage one to convert and asked them to spend time on their own faith and learn about it. However, if they insist on it, I give suggestions – it is free will and free choice. This last month two white girls a Mormon in SD and a Baptist in Denver converted on their own. They are still single and are journalists.

It makes sense for the extremists among Christians and Jews to find the Nona’s to malign the religion and stop conversions. Indeed, the Neocons in Europe in the 10th Century paid money to mis-translate Qur’aan as a cult to rob the support of their subjects and wage the holy war against Muslims. It was all political, but they succeeded in making it a religious one, they even duped he pope to issue a fatwa against Muslims.

You can read the stuff on the left panel with pictures of Qur’aan that were deliberately mistranslated - http://quraan-today.blogspot.com/

By passing this on, enlightened American women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.

Cruel and Usual Punishment - just released in most bookstores. Ripping the West in Two.

Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.

Mike: Smart woman Nona is finding dumb idiots to buy her crap. Muslims are divided badly, the Saudis don’t get along with Iranians, and the Palestinians are fractured. The Muslims in America are utterly divided; there is no single voice for them. Indeed, there is no clergy in Islam, it was expressly prohibited… but the Muslims Neocons have made an industry out of it. Sharia is not coming, and there are many Muslim websites offering rewards to find those who think of bringing Sharia laws. An overwhelming majority of new generations are diametrically opposed to it and I will stand against it. Look at www.WorldMuslimcongress.com for the rewards. If I can offer Nona a million dollars a year, the woman will write for me the way I want her to write. It is all an industry.

Mike: I have references enough about Sharia – just go the sites and discover:

http://sharialaws.blogspot.com/
http://quraan-today.blogspot.com/2008/08/all-articles-listed.html
http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/

She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.

Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before emigrating to America in 1978. When she was eight years old, her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel . He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza .

When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.

But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.

In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping Shariah Law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose Shariah on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed.

In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. To elect the President! I think everyone in the U.S. Should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!

This is your chance to make a difference...!

What is Sharia

Sharia in its simplest form is a "HOW-TO MANUAL" based on Quraan and the Hadith (Prophet Muhammad's sayings). It it is a human effort to understand the concept of Justice enshrined in Qur'aan for living a day to day life.

The private domain of the manual is about the relationship between an individual and the creator, whereas the public domain of the Sharia law is about the relationship between the individual and the society.

The contentious issues stem from treatment of; divorce, women's rights, inheritance, theft, adultery and apostasy. Our focus is in understanding and bringing forth various opinions and thoughts to get a grasp of the system.

The core value of Islam is Justice. The violations of justice and the rule of law are found in every faith, culture and political traditions at varying degrees. No community can cast the first stone.

Sharia industry has been built with strong fortifications to the point that many a Muslims are caused into believing that Sharia is divine. Justice is one of the core values of Islam and Sharia should be looked from that lens and not vice-versa.

It is like the defense industry, tax preparers industry or the Holocaust industry - where they make it so complicated that they are needed. It is their business protection plan.

Islam is a simple religion for one to follow and be accountable for his or her actions. We don't need an industry and Islam does not have clergy built into it.

We can retain the private Sharia and let go of the public sharia, the civil laws of the nation provide ample justice and we don't need a duplicate system. It is not divine to begin with to hang on to it.

Orgins of Islamophobia

Deliberate defamation &
Propogation of Misconceptions.

Roots of Islamophobia in the early Orientalist Translations

The first Qur'an translation was into Latin by Robert of Ketton in 1143. It was made at the request of the Abbot of the monastery of Cluny. (abounds in inaccuracies)
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Another Latin translation by Ludovicus Marracci was published in 1698. It was supplemented with quotes from Qur'an commentaries "carefully juxtaposed and sufficiently garbled so as to portray Islam in the worst possible light" (Colin Turner,1997 p. xii).

The title of the introductory volume of such translation was A Refutation of the Qur'an.

Such translations formed the foundation for a number of subsequent translations into English, French, Italian, German, etc.
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The first English translation was that of Alexander Ross published in 1649. In his introduction, Ross says "I thought good to bring it to their colours, that so viewing thine enemies in their full body, thou must the better prepare to encounter … his Alcoran" (p. A3).
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Similarly, H. Reckendorf (1857) says in his Hebrew translation of the Qur'an, "I can now stop writing and ask God's pardon for the sin I committed when I profaned our sacred language and transferred to it the talk of lies and falsehood" (as cited in Abdul Aal, January 29, 2006, p. 78).
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In 1734, George Sale’s translation came out based on Marracci’s earlier notorious work. In 1861, J. M. Rodwell’s work provided a further example of a writer "gunning for Islam" (Turner, 1997, p. xii).
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Courtesy: Ibrahim Saleh & Dahlia Sabry Researchers at Al-Azhar University, Cairo

Foundationless castles

You may discover to your chagrin, that many of the Neocon Doctors on Islam have built their castles on wrong foundation. In fact Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Billy Graham Junior's information on Islam comes from these falsities.

When the European Kings were attacked by the invading Arab Armies, one of the ways they could get their subjects to defend their Kingdoms was through a campaign of hate.

They roped in the pope to issue a fatwa against 'infidel' Muslims, then paid the evil writers to mis-translate the Qur'aan with the intent of enraging the good Christians to go on crusades to kill the infidels. This is one part of the equation, the second part is even the Arab Kings had the Qur'aan mistranslated to enrage Muslims against the other infidels. Check out the Hilali translation in the title Bismillah on this Blog.

Neither Islam nor Christianity would have approved any of the non-sense of crusades, inquisitions and other massacres. It was all done to protect and annex the lands that belonged to each other.

I wish the average Christians and Muslims had not fallen into the trap of hatred for the gains of the dead Kings and today's virtual Live Kings with similar goals of controlling resources with no care for their faith or human lives.

It is time for the humanity to go for the truth. All religions were issued by the creator for the individuals to find a balance and peace for themeselves and with other humans and environment.

The truth is all religions are for the good of mankind, where ever you see wickedness, it has the non-Godly element in it.

Koran - George Sale
Old Translation
Mistranslated Qur'aan
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Arlington Library bans hate group

Arlington Library bans hate group

Kudos to the management of Arlington Libraray for putting a stop on hate mongering, enough of that has ruined our economy and our morality. The poor suckers who open their check books and get robbed by the O'Briens would really appreciate it.

The Christian, Muslim, Hindu and Jewish Neocons** are an insecure bunch people on the earth, they are frightened at every sneeze one releases. They cook up imaginary enemies, and their solution to the problems is bombing and annihilating the ones who disagree with them, that is what the previous men in the white house did; if you don't like some one, eliminate them. None of them are capable of a dialogue.

I would challenge Ms. Dorrie O’Brien to a dialogue with any intelligent person with a condition to present facts. Is she capable of sitting up in public with Jamal Qaddura or me and answer the questions? I hope so. The Neocons have their own audience who is too eager to be frightened and open the check books for their presumed saviors. How long will they be duping that group of Americans, a tiny but money loaded minority that is shrinking by the day. Even Rush cannot dupe them any more.

I am a Republican and not ashamed of my party’s ideals, but certainly embarrassed by its leadership - Is there one among McCain, Bush, Cheney, Palin, Romney, Giuliani, Gingrich and the bunch who is capable of talking peace and co-existence? These men and women are a fool proof guaranty for the Democrats to win in 2010, perhaps another landslide victory.

The Republican Neocons don't understand the polls and they are not in tune with the American public that wants to get along with every one, have jobs, and not be robbed by the corrupt politicians who blow billions of dollars on destruction and genocides and cause deficit and misery to American families, the Americans want peace and prosperity, not WARS and HATE.

Less than 1% of any group, religious or otherwise subscribe to the Neocon ideology, who are bent on killing and annihilating in the name of God, as though God has signed them up to represent him.

Furthermore, the Neocons are devoid of any intelligence and keep parroting their hallucinations; WMD's, Islamic Jihad, Islamic terrorism and what not?

For the sake of our democracy, and to ensure checks and balances, the Republicans need a majority at least in the Senate to knock off the possible arrogance of one party government. Bush had a majority and he ran one of the most irresponsible governments ever -with reckless spending in Iraq and Afghanistan that has cause untold misery to the average American.

May God instill some critical thinking in Neocon Republican minds. They are a mirror image of the Neocon Muslims like Bin Laden. Both believe in destroying each other and as long as they have those attitudes, they are messing up the lives of Americans. It is time we speak out against these rascals.

As Americans, thank God we were first saved on November 2006 and again God pulled us out of the Republican arrogance in November 2008, and now it is time to clean the Republican Party from these hate mongers.

I urge the wealthy Americans not to shell a penny to any one who is bent on spewing hate towards any American; they are making a fool out of you to get you to write them a check.

The idea of security is simple – if you as an individual or a nation threaten others, you are guaranteed to be reciprocated. You build sustainable security for America by seeking peace and not threatening others. Every threat will be matched by a significant or a miniscule threat, then why do such a dumb thing and bring untold misery to Americans.

Republicans; you had better wake up and get rid of all your current leadership, they frighten the American Public, and we do not want another disaster. You get your money by frightening others, but the Average American does not have any to frighten, get the money and put the food on his/her table. They are pissed off at you losers. (Comments by Republicans about the party are in the comment section below)

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Arlington library bans group, says meeting content not at issue
By AMAN BATHEJA
abatheja@star-telegram.com

A local chapter of a group focused on fighting "the assault of radical Islam" has been permanently barred from holding any more meetings at the Arlington Public Library.

The Grand Prairie chapter of ACT! for America had its meeting privileges revoked this month because the group broke two guidelines of the library’s meeting room usage policy, Arlington Library Director Cary Siegfried said.

The group, led by Dorrie O’Brien of Grand Prairie, had been meeting at the library since last year, Siegfried said. The Arlington Public Library offers its meeting room for free.

In an e-mail to Siegfried, O’Brien said the library was playing "into the hands of America’s enemies" and was just citing the rule violations as an excuse.

"I imagine there’s been a lot of pressure put on you to kick me out of the library by the people who want to stop me and others like me from getting the actual word out about Islam," O’Brien wrote.

Siegfried insisted that the content of the meetings had nothing to do with her decision.

"They didn’t follow the rules; that’s all there is to it," Siegfried said.

Siegfried said she warned ACT! for America this year after the library received a complaint that the group’s meetings were not fully open to the public and that group leaders were soliciting funds at the meeting, both violations of the library’s policy.

Abir Chatila, principal at Al-Hedayah Academy in Fort Worth, said she filed the complaint after O’Brien asked her where she was born and how she had heard about the meeting before ultimately allowing her to attend. Chatila said she wanted to attend the meeting because she was concerned that anti-Muslim rhetoric was being spread at the library.

"I was very upset by the fact that I had to justify who I was and where I was born to get into this meeting," Chatila said.

Siegfried sent a library staffer to attend the group’s June meeting to ensure that the group was adhering to the rules, she said.

The staffer saw a group leader soliciting funds and another attendee selling books and tapes. That prompted a permanent suspension of the group’s meeting privileges, she said.

For months, O’Brien’s rhetoric has angered local members of the Muslim community, with many saying she was promoting hate speech. In May, O’Brien and Tarrant County Medical Examiner Nizam Peerwani, a Muslim, gave opposing presentations to the North Tarrant Republican Club about the intentions of Muslims in America.

William Sandlin Jr. of Arlington, a member of ACT! for America, said the group met this month at a private facility and about 70 people attended. He said group members are angry about how Arlington handled the incident.

"I was very disappointed that they took that tack, since I paid taxes in Arlington since 1969 and they allowed the believers in Islam to negate this lady’s right to meet there," Sandlin said.

In an e-mailed response to the Star-Telegram, O’Brien said she has put the incident with the library behind her.

"I was originally disappointed that the library superintendent determined she would cancel both of ACT!’s future appearances at the library, but that’s ancient history to me now," O’Brien wrote. "ACT! moved on and is stronger and better for it."

Several local Muslims said they were pleased to see the group barred from using a public facility.
"This hate speech should not be allowed in a public library," said Jamal Qaddura, president of the DFW Islamic Education Center in Arlington.