No American has to live in anxieties, discomfort or fear of the other. The purpose of this conference is to understand the issues and find ways to remove such fears in an open forum and restore the cohesiveness of our society and work towards building a safe and secure America.
When: 3:00 PM – 6:00 PM on Sunday, December 5, 2010
Where: Unity Church, 6525 Forest Lane, Dallas, TX. 75230
PRESS RELEASE
INVITATION
Contact: MikeGhouse@aol.com
You are invited, details below
No American has to live in anxieties, discomfort or fear of the other. The purpose of this conference is to remove such myths in an open forum and restore the cohesiveness of our society and work towards building a safe and secure America.
Since our independence in 1776, we have been tested time and again by various political, economic and religious forces to divide us, however, at the end we have come out strong as one nation. The Civil War, the Great Depression, the World War, Pearl Harbor, Women’s rights, Abortion, the Vietnam War, Civil Rights, Budget Deficits, Unemployment, 9/11, the Iraq and Afghanistan War have all been difficult, but we will make it through and sanity will prevail.
The controversy over the Muslim Community Center in New York has unraveled the difficulties Catholics, Jews, Mormons, Wicca and others have endured.
We have come a long way to embrace and accept the otherness of other. However, this year has given rise to yet another temptation; to blame Islam, calling it an evil, evil religion and calling its prophet a false prophet. No American has to live in fear of the other, nor live in anxieties or discomfort.
Religion has been “abused” and “misused” to someone’s advantage, as Americans, are we going to let that happen? No, we can pull ourselves together and not fall for the temptations to divide ourselves.
If we make an effort, goodness will come to our rescue. Mike Ghouse adds, “As members of diverse family of faiths, we seek to demystify the myths, malice and falsification of our respective faiths. It is time for all of us to gather and understand the Qur’aan, the holy book of Muslims, which has been the subject of attack by a few among us. Indeed, a conference is a positive response to negative sermons delivered from a few pulpits of America this year.”
The Conference puts the Quraan in the hands of panelists made up of Pastors, Rabbis, Pundits, Shamans, Clergy, lay persons, elected officers and the public. The uniqueness of the event is highlighted by facing the “terrifying passages” of Quraan. For the first time in history, the actual verses from Quraan will be read directly and explained by panelists made up of Pastors, Rabbis, Pundits, Shamans, Clergy, lay persons and elected officials who have a deep interest in bringing Americans together on common grounds. The Muslim scholars either affirm their reading or share the additional information right from the very Quraan for further understanding.
It is time now to replace the ill-will with goodwill; no American has to live in anxieties, discomfort or fear of the other. The purpose of this conference is to remove such myths in an open forum in the public and restore the cohesiveness of our society and work towards building a safe and secure America.
When: 3:00 PM – 6:00 PM on Sunday, December 5, 2010
Where: Unity Church, 6525 Forest Lane, Dallas, TX. 75230
Event: Qur’aan Conference in Dallas
Purpose: To demystify the myths about Quraan and Islam
Website: http://www.quraanconference.com/
Inquiries: quraanconference@gmail.com
RSVP: Confirmattendance@gmail.com
Call: Mike Ghouse (214) 325-1916
THE EVENT IS FREE
Thank you.
Mike Ghouse for
A COHESIVE AMERICA,
AMERICANS TOGETHER
http://www.quraanconference.com/
Documentary – listed at www.QuraanConference.com
Thursday, December 2, 2010
Thursday, October 14, 2010
Quran (Koran) Conference in Dallas, an American effort to build cohesive societies
The Conference puts a Quraan in the hands of panelists made up of Pastors, Rabbis, Pundits, Shamans, lay persons, elected officers and the public. It is to demystify the myths about Quraan and Islam. An American effort to build cohesive societies.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Oct 10, 2010 -DALLAS , TEXAS - The Foundation for Pluralism and the World Muslim Congress have announced a conference on Quraan in Dallas
Representing the organizations, Mike Ghouse adds, "As members of diverse family of faiths, we seek to demystify the myths and falsification of our respective faiths. It is time for all of us to gather and understand the Qur'aan, the holy book of Muslims, which has been the subject of attack by a few among us. Indeed, the conference is a positive response to negative sermons delivered from a few pulpits ofAmerica
The uniqueness of the event is highlighted by facing the "terrifying passages" of Quraan. For the first time in history, the actual verses from Quraan will be read directly and explained by non-Muslim panelists made up of Pastors, Rabbis, Pundits, Shamans, Clergy, lay persons and elected officials who have a deep interest in bringing Americans together on common grounds. The Muslim scholars either affirm their reading or refer to the Quraan for further understanding. It would be indeed a first hand educational experience.
It is time now to replace the ill-will with goodwill; no American has to live in anxieties, discomfort or fear of the other. The purpose of this conference is to remove such myths in an open forum in the public and restore the cohesiveness of our society and work towards building a safe and secureAmerica
Bring your children to experience the multi-cultural costumes in a designated room for them.
Refreshments will be served after the event.
THE EVENT IS FREE
Please R.S.V.P. to confirmattendance@gmail.com
Direct your inquiries to QuraanConference@gmail.com .
Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker, writer, optimist, educator and an activist of Pluralism, Interfaith, Islam and Civil Societies. He heads the Foundation for Pluralism and World Muslim Congress and offers Pluralistic solutions to the media and the public on issues of the day. Mike's work is reflected at three websites & twenty two Blogs listed at http://www.mikeghouse.net/
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Oct 10, 2010 -
Representing the organizations, Mike Ghouse adds, "As members of diverse family of faiths, we seek to demystify the myths and falsification of our respective faiths. It is time for all of us to gather and understand the Qur'aan, the holy book of Muslims, which has been the subject of attack by a few among us. Indeed, the conference is a positive response to negative sermons delivered from a few pulpits of
The uniqueness of the event is highlighted by facing the "terrifying passages" of Quraan. For the first time in history, the actual verses from Quraan will be read directly and explained by non-Muslim panelists made up of Pastors, Rabbis, Pundits, Shamans, Clergy, lay persons and elected officials who have a deep interest in bringing Americans together on common grounds. The Muslim scholars either affirm their reading or refer to the Quraan for further understanding. It would be indeed a first hand educational experience.
It is time now to replace the ill-will with goodwill; no American has to live in anxieties, discomfort or fear of the other. The purpose of this conference is to remove such myths in an open forum in the public and restore the cohesiveness of our society and work towards building a safe and secure
Bring your children to experience the multi-cultural costumes in a designated room for them.
Refreshments will be served after the event.
THE EVENT IS FREE
Please R.S.V.P. to confirmattendance@gmail.com
Direct your inquiries to QuraanConference@gmail.com .
For details visit website http://www.quraanconference.com/
Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker, writer, optimist, educator and an activist of Pluralism, Interfaith, Islam and Civil Societies. He heads the Foundation for Pluralism and World Muslim Congress and offers Pluralistic solutions to the media and the public on issues of the day. Mike's work is reflected at three websites & twenty two Blogs listed at http://www.mikeghouse.net/
Thursday, September 30, 2010
Qur’aan Conference, an American event
From times immemorial Religion has been “abused” and “misused” to someone gain, usually for controlling others. Are we going to let that happen? As Americans, we can pull ourselves together and not fall for the temptations to divide ourselves. No American has to live in fear of the other, nor live in anxieties or discomfort.
All our faiths reinforce the creed of "One Nation under God, with liberty and justice for all.” Details at http://www.quraanconference.com/
Mike Ghouse is a speaker on Pluralism and Islam offering pluralistic solutions to the media and public on issues of the day. His blogs and sites are listed at www.MikeGhouse.net
Saturday, September 25, 2010
Steven Shamrock sells hate
As I was reading this email, I could not believe the falsifications and lies and instinctively I said, this man is making a living frightening the crap out of a few Jews and Christians... sure enough at the end there was an ask for money. I hope people wake up and support those who work for peace, which is good for all at the end. Aggravating the conflicts, entrenching hate will take you far far away from peace, but will fill the pockets of hate sellers.
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From: Steven Shamrak
Date: September 21, 2010 12:44:28 AM CDT
To: Mike@foundationforpluralism.com
Subject: The Words of Mohammad Clear! * Making a Good Living of "Balance of Power" * Resolution 194 and Fake Refugee Problem
The Words of Allah's Apostle Clear!
by Gaye, a subscriber of this editorial.
Those who say that Israel (Jews) should get out of Palestine because it is not Jewish land, you are nuts! It was the Muslims who took the land from the Jewish people in the first place and there were many other nations that also forced Jews to leave their land before them.
The Qur'an shows very clearly the pride taken by Mohammad and his merry men at killing Jewish men and chasing the Jews from their land. They were pirates on land! It is very clear from the verses of the Qur'an:
Qur'an 33:26 - "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before." - This land had not belonged to Muslims!
Qur'an 59:2 - "It was Allah who drove the People of the Book (Jews) from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah..."
Islam also has warned all infidels:
Bukhari: V5B59N516 - "When Allah's Apostle fought or raided people we raised our voices saying, 'Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.'"
Mohammad went on 23 RAIDS himself and ordered over 70 others to rid the world of evil. Hence, his modern followers are willing to fulfill their esteemed leader's commands. Now they have suicide bombers, rockets and are attempting to build a nuclear bomb. They feel that time is right to implement this prophecy:
Qur'an 8:59 - "The infidels should not think that they can escape. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah's enemy."
Notice the words: that infidels are "Allah's enemy". Allah also said that Muslims were to kill all their enemies. This of course means endless war against all non-Muslims.
When people start saying that Jews should leave Israel, just ask them when they are going to leave America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or any other country where people have taken over. But Jews didn't! (We took some of our land back!)
I do not think we can convince people, who do not believe in the Torah or the Bible, that G-d promised the land to the Jews. They do not have the knowledge of God and his promises, but it is a different matter when we are dealing with the idiots and hypocrites who claim that they are acting in the name of G-d, acknowledge that Jews are indeed the "People of the Book" but simultaneously have been brazen and fierce try to destroy them. Self-protection is the only reason for little Israel to fight the billions of Muslims!
Where are the Screaming "Humanitarians"? Hamas used phosphorus, which is banned for use against civilians, in the mortars aimed at the 12,000 civilians of the Gaza-border region on Wednesday. (Many of the so-called Humanitarians are just ugly Jew-haters!)
Food for Thought. by Steven Shamrak
The time has come to free Gaza completely from Muslim occupation and let the Jew-hating and terror-supporting population of Gaza leave Jewish land. The pretence of a people called Palestinians, an entity invented by Arabs in late 1960's to fight against the existence of the Jewish state, must be abandoned!
Barbaric Islamic Justice:
1) A Saudi Arabian court has ruled that a convicted man's spinal cord should be severed so he is paralysed. This is part of the kingdom's Islamic-law-oriented retribution for similar injuries he is said to have inflicted upon another man in a fight.
2) A Saudi court has convicted four women and 11 men for mingling at a party and sentenced them to flogging and prison terms.
Making a Good Living, Maintaining "Balance of Power"
1) The Obama administration is planning to sell up to $60 billion worth of advanced aircraft to Saudi Arabia, the largest-ever foreign arms sale. The package would include 84 new Boeing F-15 fighter jets and upgrades of another 70. It would also include three types of helicopters: 72 Black Hawk helicopters, 70 Apaches, and 36 Little Birds. State department spokesman Philip J Crowley stresses that Washington's priority is stability in the Middle East.
2) The US is slated to sell Israel massive military fuel stocks worth $2 bn.
3) Israel is expected to purchase 20 of F-35 warplanes for a total cost of $2.7 billion. The deal will be the most expensive in the IDF's history. (By raising the level of 'balance', the US arm dealers yield bigger profits! Saudi citizens were the perpetrators of 9/11 attacks - who is the evil kingdom planning to attack next?)
How Long Must We Wait? Iran has crossed the threshold for being able to arm ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads. This news sent the NATO Secretary running to Washington, but stirred no reaction from Israel - even though Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is preparing to visit Beirut to sign up Lebanese army for Tehran's forward front to defend its nuclear facilities and tie Israel's hands.
Schizo Talks. On Wednesday the United States said Israeli and Palestinian leaders moved toward resolving their differences over settlements but the Palestinians kept up the threat to walk out of the new peace talks. (Wishful thinking and political pretence will never work. There is a need for the will of all parties concerned to achieve peace - the 'Palestinians' have shown none!)
Destruction of Israel is the Aim. Gaza filmmakers Mohammed al-Amrity and Ayman Hijazi have released a film, "The Great Liberation", that portrays in detail the takeover of Israel by Arab Muslims and the destruction of vital Israeli and Jewish institutions. Arabs are depicted blowing up the Hurva synagogue in Jerusalem. Other scenes show Arabs destroying the Bank of Israel and blowing up the Supreme Court. (Incitement is forbidden by previous useless agreements between the PA and Israel. Nobody cares when agreements with Jews are violated!)
PA in Line with Tradition of Islamic Intolerance. Members of a pacifist Muslim sect say the PA is persecuting them, especially in the past year, including confiscation of property and physical violence. Head of the Ahmadis in Israel, Muhammad Sharif, told the Makor Rishon newspaper, "We believe in a tolerant, friendly and rational Islam." The Ahmadi sect was founded in 1889 in India and now numbers in the tens of millions of followers, mostly living outside the Arab world.
Hypocrisy in Action:
150 Irish artists pledge to boycott Israel - 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by 19 Islamic terrorists, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia. Why has nobody called for a boycott of Saudi Arabia, a well-known sponsor of international terror?
Legalised Occupation and Genocide are Celebrated. Mexico looked beyond its drug war to throw a 200th birthday bash celebrating its self-proclaimed proud history, whimsical culture and resilience embodied in the traditional independence cry: "Viva Mexico!" (Mexico was created on the land and blood of many native Indian tribes. Just imagine what the world 'opinion' would be now if Jews had accepted offers to create a Jewish state in Tasmania or Uganda? We can't even live in peace on our own land!)
Freedom of Speech and Expression Under Threat. A cartoonist, Molly Norris, has disappeared from public view because she is on an Islamic cleric's hit list for declaring "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" last spring. She is changing her name and essentially wiping out her identity on the advice of the FBI.
UN Resolution 194 and Fake Refugee Problem.
Eli E. Hertz
Arab leaders falsely point to UN Resolution 194 as proof that Arab refugees have a "Right to return".
Resolution 194, adopted by the UN General Assembly on December 11, 1948, addressed a host of issues, but only one paragraph out of 15 dealt with refugees created by the conflict. Resolution 194 attempted to create the tools required to reach a truce in the region. It established a conciliation commission with representatives from the United States, France and Turkey to replace the UN mediator. The commission was charged with achieving "a final settlement of all questions between... governments and authorities concerned." The Resolution's "refugee clause" was not a standalone item, as the Arabs would have us think, nor does it pertain specifically to Palestinian Arab refugees.
Of the 15 paragraphs, the first six sections addressed ways to achieve a truce. The next four paragraphs addressed the ways that Jerusalem and surrounding villages and towns should be demilitarised, and how an international zone or jurisdiction would be created in and around Jerusalem. The resolution also called on all parties to protect and allow free access to holy places, including religious buildings.
One paragraph has drawn the most attention: Paragraph 11, which alone addressed the issue of refugees and compensation for those whose property was lost or damaged. Contrary to Arab claims, it did not guarantee a Right of Return and certainly did not guarantee an unconditional Right of Return - that is the right of Palestinian Arab refugees to return to Israel. Nor did it specifically mention Arab refugees, thereby indicating that the resolution was aimed at all refugees, both Jewish an d Arab . Instead, Resolution 194 recommended that refugees be allowed to return to their homeland if they met two important conditions:
1. That they be willing to live in peace with their neighbours
2. That the return takes place "at the earliest practicable date"
The resolution also recommended that for those who did not wish to return, "Compensation should be paid for the property... and for loss of or damage to property" by the "governments or authorities responsible."
Although Arab leaders point to Resolution 194 as proof that Arab refugees have a right to return or be compensated, it is important to note that the Arab States: Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen voted against Resolution 194. Israel is not even mentioned in the resolution. The fact that plural wording also is used - "governments or authorities" - suggests that, contrary to Arab claims, the burden of compensation does not fall solely upon one side of the conflict. Because seven Arab armies invaded I srael, Israel was not responsible for creating the refugee problem. When hundreds of thousands Jews, under threat of death, attack and other forms of persecution were forced to flee Arab communities, the State of Israel absorbed the overwhelming majority of them into the then-fledgling nation.
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From: Steven Shamrak
Date: September 21, 2010 12:44:28 AM CDT
To: Mike@foundationforpluralism.com
Subject: The Words of Mohammad Clear! * Making a Good Living of "Balance of Power" * Resolution 194 and Fake Refugee Problem
The Words of Allah's Apostle Clear!
by Gaye, a subscriber of this editorial.
Those who say that Israel (Jews) should get out of Palestine because it is not Jewish land, you are nuts! It was the Muslims who took the land from the Jewish people in the first place and there were many other nations that also forced Jews to leave their land before them.
The Qur'an shows very clearly the pride taken by Mohammad and his merry men at killing Jewish men and chasing the Jews from their land. They were pirates on land! It is very clear from the verses of the Qur'an:
Qur'an 33:26 - "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before." - This land had not belonged to Muslims!
Qur'an 59:2 - "It was Allah who drove the People of the Book (Jews) from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah..."
Islam also has warned all infidels:
Bukhari: V5B59N516 - "When Allah's Apostle fought or raided people we raised our voices saying, 'Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.'"
Mohammad went on 23 RAIDS himself and ordered over 70 others to rid the world of evil. Hence, his modern followers are willing to fulfill their esteemed leader's commands. Now they have suicide bombers, rockets and are attempting to build a nuclear bomb. They feel that time is right to implement this prophecy:
Qur'an 8:59 - "The infidels should not think that they can escape. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah's enemy."
Notice the words: that infidels are "Allah's enemy". Allah also said that Muslims were to kill all their enemies. This of course means endless war against all non-Muslims.
When people start saying that Jews should leave Israel, just ask them when they are going to leave America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or any other country where people have taken over. But Jews didn't! (We took some of our land back!)
I do not think we can convince people, who do not believe in the Torah or the Bible, that G-d promised the land to the Jews. They do not have the knowledge of God and his promises, but it is a different matter when we are dealing with the idiots and hypocrites who claim that they are acting in the name of G-d, acknowledge that Jews are indeed the "People of the Book" but simultaneously have been brazen and fierce try to destroy them. Self-protection is the only reason for little Israel to fight the billions of Muslims!
Where are the Screaming "Humanitarians"? Hamas used phosphorus, which is banned for use against civilians, in the mortars aimed at the 12,000 civilians of the Gaza-border region on Wednesday. (Many of the so-called Humanitarians are just ugly Jew-haters!)
Food for Thought. by Steven Shamrak
The time has come to free Gaza completely from Muslim occupation and let the Jew-hating and terror-supporting population of Gaza leave Jewish land. The pretence of a people called Palestinians, an entity invented by Arabs in late 1960's to fight against the existence of the Jewish state, must be abandoned!
Barbaric Islamic Justice:
1) A Saudi Arabian court has ruled that a convicted man's spinal cord should be severed so he is paralysed. This is part of the kingdom's Islamic-law-oriented retribution for similar injuries he is said to have inflicted upon another man in a fight.
2) A Saudi court has convicted four women and 11 men for mingling at a party and sentenced them to flogging and prison terms.
Making a Good Living, Maintaining "Balance of Power"
1) The Obama administration is planning to sell up to $60 billion worth of advanced aircraft to Saudi Arabia, the largest-ever foreign arms sale. The package would include 84 new Boeing F-15 fighter jets and upgrades of another 70. It would also include three types of helicopters: 72 Black Hawk helicopters, 70 Apaches, and 36 Little Birds. State department spokesman Philip J Crowley stresses that Washington's priority is stability in the Middle East.
2) The US is slated to sell Israel massive military fuel stocks worth $2 bn.
3) Israel is expected to purchase 20 of F-35 warplanes for a total cost of $2.7 billion. The deal will be the most expensive in the IDF's history. (By raising the level of 'balance', the US arm dealers yield bigger profits! Saudi citizens were the perpetrators of 9/11 attacks - who is the evil kingdom planning to attack next?)
How Long Must We Wait? Iran has crossed the threshold for being able to arm ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads. This news sent the NATO Secretary running to Washington, but stirred no reaction from Israel - even though Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is preparing to visit Beirut to sign up Lebanese army for Tehran's forward front to defend its nuclear facilities and tie Israel's hands.
Schizo Talks. On Wednesday the United States said Israeli and Palestinian leaders moved toward resolving their differences over settlements but the Palestinians kept up the threat to walk out of the new peace talks. (Wishful thinking and political pretence will never work. There is a need for the will of all parties concerned to achieve peace - the 'Palestinians' have shown none!)
Destruction of Israel is the Aim. Gaza filmmakers Mohammed al-Amrity and Ayman Hijazi have released a film, "The Great Liberation", that portrays in detail the takeover of Israel by Arab Muslims and the destruction of vital Israeli and Jewish institutions. Arabs are depicted blowing up the Hurva synagogue in Jerusalem. Other scenes show Arabs destroying the Bank of Israel and blowing up the Supreme Court. (Incitement is forbidden by previous useless agreements between the PA and Israel. Nobody cares when agreements with Jews are violated!)
PA in Line with Tradition of Islamic Intolerance. Members of a pacifist Muslim sect say the PA is persecuting them, especially in the past year, including confiscation of property and physical violence. Head of the Ahmadis in Israel, Muhammad Sharif, told the Makor Rishon newspaper, "We believe in a tolerant, friendly and rational Islam." The Ahmadi sect was founded in 1889 in India and now numbers in the tens of millions of followers, mostly living outside the Arab world.
Hypocrisy in Action:
150 Irish artists pledge to boycott Israel - 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by 19 Islamic terrorists, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia. Why has nobody called for a boycott of Saudi Arabia, a well-known sponsor of international terror?
Legalised Occupation and Genocide are Celebrated. Mexico looked beyond its drug war to throw a 200th birthday bash celebrating its self-proclaimed proud history, whimsical culture and resilience embodied in the traditional independence cry: "Viva Mexico!" (Mexico was created on the land and blood of many native Indian tribes. Just imagine what the world 'opinion' would be now if Jews had accepted offers to create a Jewish state in Tasmania or Uganda? We can't even live in peace on our own land!)
Freedom of Speech and Expression Under Threat. A cartoonist, Molly Norris, has disappeared from public view because she is on an Islamic cleric's hit list for declaring "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" last spring. She is changing her name and essentially wiping out her identity on the advice of the FBI.
UN Resolution 194 and Fake Refugee Problem.
Eli E. Hertz
Arab leaders falsely point to UN Resolution 194 as proof that Arab refugees have a "Right to return".
Resolution 194, adopted by the UN General Assembly on December 11, 1948, addressed a host of issues, but only one paragraph out of 15 dealt with refugees created by the conflict. Resolution 194 attempted to create the tools required to reach a truce in the region. It established a conciliation commission with representatives from the United States, France and Turkey to replace the UN mediator. The commission was charged with achieving "a final settlement of all questions between... governments and authorities concerned." The Resolution's "refugee clause" was not a standalone item, as the Arabs would have us think, nor does it pertain specifically to Palestinian Arab refugees.
Of the 15 paragraphs, the first six sections addressed ways to achieve a truce. The next four paragraphs addressed the ways that Jerusalem and surrounding villages and towns should be demilitarised, and how an international zone or jurisdiction would be created in and around Jerusalem. The resolution also called on all parties to protect and allow free access to holy places, including religious buildings.
One paragraph has drawn the most attention: Paragraph 11, which alone addressed the issue of refugees and compensation for those whose property was lost or damaged. Contrary to Arab claims, it did not guarantee a Right of Return and certainly did not guarantee an unconditional Right of Return - that is the right of Palestinian Arab refugees to return to Israel. Nor did it specifically mention Arab refugees, thereby indicating that the resolution was aimed at all refugees, both Jewish an d Arab . Instead, Resolution 194 recommended that refugees be allowed to return to their homeland if they met two important conditions:
1. That they be willing to live in peace with their neighbours
2. That the return takes place "at the earliest practicable date"
The resolution also recommended that for those who did not wish to return, "Compensation should be paid for the property... and for loss of or damage to property" by the "governments or authorities responsible."
Although Arab leaders point to Resolution 194 as proof that Arab refugees have a right to return or be compensated, it is important to note that the Arab States: Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen voted against Resolution 194. Israel is not even mentioned in the resolution. The fact that plural wording also is used - "governments or authorities" - suggests that, contrary to Arab claims, the burden of compensation does not fall solely upon one side of the conflict. Because seven Arab armies invaded I srael, Israel was not responsible for creating the refugee problem. When hundreds of thousands Jews, under threat of death, attack and other forms of persecution were forced to flee Arab communities, the State of Israel absorbed the overwhelming majority of them into the then-fledgling nation.
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Monday, August 30, 2010
The Two Churchills
After being elected to Parliament in 1900, he demanded a rolling program of more conquests, based on his belief that “the Aryan stock is bound to triumph.” As war secretary and then colonial secretary in the 1920s, he unleashed the notorious Black and Tans on Ireland’s Catholics, to burn homes and beat civilians. When the Kurds rebelled against British rule in Iraq, he said: “I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes.” It “would spread a lively terror.” (Strangely, Toye doesn’t quote this.)The Two Churchills
A British prison camp in Kenya in 1954, during the Mau Mau uprising.
The New York Times
By JOHANN HARI
Published: August 12, 2010
Winston Churchill is remembered for leading Britain through her finest hour — but what if he also led the country through her most shameful one? What if, in addition to rousing a nation to save the world from the Nazis, he fought for a raw white supremacy and a concentration camp network of his own? This question burns through Richard Toye’s superb, unsettling new history, “Churchill’s Empire” — and is even seeping into the Oval Office.
George W. Bush left a big growling bust of Churchill near his desk in the White House, in an attempt to associate himself with Churchill’s heroic stand against fascism. Barack Obama had it returned to Britain. It’s not hard to guess why: his Kenyan grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama, was imprisoned without trial for two years and tortured on Churchill’s watch, for resisting Churchill’s empire.
Can these clashing Churchills be reconciled? Do we live, at the same time, in the world he helped to save and the world he helped to trash? Toye, one of Britain’s smartest young historians, has tried to pick through these questions dispassionately. Churchill was born in 1874 into a Britain that was coloring the map imperial pink, at the cost of washing distant nations blood-red. He was told a simple story: the superior white man was conquering the primitive dark-skinned natives, and bringing them the benefits of civilization.
As soon as he could, Churchill charged off to take his part in “a lot of jolly little wars against barbarous peoples.” In the Swat valley, now part of Pakistan, he experienced, fleetingly, an instant of doubt. He realized that the local population was fighting back because of “the presence of British troops in lands the local people considered their own,” just as Britain would if she were invaded. But Churchill soon suppressed this thought, deciding instead that they were merely deranged jihadists whose violence was explained by a “strong aboriginal propensity to kill.”
He gladly took part in raids that laid waste to whole valleys, writing: “We proceeded systematically, village by village, and we destroyed the houses, filled up the wells, blew down the towers, cut down the shady trees, burned the crops and broke the reservoirs in punitive devastation.” He then sped off to help reconquer the Sudan, where he bragged that he personally shot at least three “savages.”
The young Churchill charged through imperial atrocities, defending each in turn. When the first concentration camps were built in South Africa, he said they produced “the minimum of suffering” possible. At least 115,000 people were swept into them and 14,000 died, but he wrote only of his “irritation that kaffirs should be allowed to fire on white men.” Later, he boasted of his experiences. “That was before war degenerated,” he said. “It was great fun galloping about.”
After being elected to Parliament in 1900, he demanded a rolling program of more conquests, based on his belief that “the Aryan stock is bound to triumph.” As war secretary and then colonial secretary in the 1920s, he unleashed the notorious Black and Tans on Ireland’s Catholics, to burn homes and beat civilians. When the Kurds rebelled against British rule in Iraq, he said: “I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes.” It “would spread a lively terror.” (Strangely, Toye doesn’t quote this.)
Of course, it’s easy to dismiss any criticism of these actions as anachronistic. Didn’t everybody in Britain think that way then? One of the most striking findings of Toye’s research is that they really didn’t: even at the time, Churchill was seen as standing at the most brutal and brutish end of the British imperialist spectrum. This was clearest in his attitude to India. When Gandhi began his campaign of peaceful resistance, Churchill raged that he “ought to be lain bound hand and foot at the gates of Delhi and then trampled on by an enormous elephant with the new Viceroy seated on its back.” He later added: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.”
This hatred killed. In 1943, to give just one example, a famine broke out in Bengal, caused, as the Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen has proven, by British mismanagement. To the horror of many of his colleagues, Churchill raged that it was their own fault for “breeding like rabbits” and refused to offer any aid for months while hundreds of thousands died.
Hussein Onyango Obama is unusual among Churchill’s victims only in one respect: his story has been rescued from the slipstream of history. Churchill believed the highlands, the most fertile land in Kenya, should be the sole preserve of the white settlers, and approved of the clearing out of the local “kaffirs.” When the Kikuyu rebelled under Churchill’s postwar premiership, some 150,000 of them were forced at gunpoint into detention camps, later called “Britain’s gulag” by the historian Caroline Elkins. Obama never truly recovered from the torture he endured.
This is a real Churchill, and a dark one — but it is not the only Churchill. He also saw the Nazi threat far ahead of the complacent British establishment, and his extraordinary leadership may have been the decisive factor in vanquishing Hitlerism from Europe. Toye is no Nicholson Baker, the appalling pseudohistorian whose recent work “Human Smoke” presented Churchill as no different from Hitler. Toye sees all this, clearly and emphatically.
So how can the two Churchills be reconciled? Was his moral opposition to Nazism a charade, masking the fact that he was merely trying to defend the British Empire from a rival? Toye quotes Richard B. Moore, an American civil rights leader, who said that it was “a most rare and fortunate coincidence” that at that moment “the vital interests of the British Empire” coincided “with those of the great overwhelming majority of mankind.” But this might be too soft in its praise. If Churchill had been interested only in saving the empire, he could probably have cut a deal with Hitler. No: he had a deeper repugnance to Nazism than that. He may have been a thug, but he knew a greater thug when he saw one — and we may owe our freedom today to this wrinkle in history.
This is the great, enduring paradox of Churchill’s life. In leading the charge against Nazism, he produced some of the richest prose poetry in defense of freedom and democracy ever written. It was a check he didn’t want black or Asian people to cash, but as the Ghanaian nationalist Kwame Nkrumah wrote, “all the fair brave words spoken about freedom that had been broadcast to the four corners of the earth took seed and grew where they had not been intended.” Churchill lived to see democrats across Britain’s imperial conquests use his own hope-songs of freedom against him.
In the end, the words of the great and glorious Churchill who resisted dictatorship overwhelmed the works of the cruel and cramped Churchill who tried to impose it on the world’s people of color. Toye teases out these ambiguities beautifully. The fact that we now live at a time where a free and independent India is an emerging superpower in the process of eclipsing Britain, and a grandson of the Kikuyu “savages” is the most powerful man in the world, is a repudiation of Churchill at his ugliest — and a sweet, unsought victory for Churchill at his best.
Sunday, August 8, 2010
Ground Zero Mosque Articles
We have to respect and honor the sentiments of every one who was a victim of terrorism and their friends and relatives who have suffered through this….
The Ground Zero Mosque is engaging the American Public and bringing out emotions and intellectualism to the forefront to tackle the issue of co-existence. The questions abound…..
In behalf of the men and women who have lost their loved ones, a few are genuinely opposing the building of the communtiy Center, a few are Altruistic and want the center to stand out as a beaocon of hope and peace and yet a few are falling prey to the political opportunists. At the end, if we envision an America that is good for all, we have to consider dropping the “me, me, and me” and yeild to what is good for America, the land of the free.
If Saudi is a bad country, why do we want to emulate them?
Continued: http://mikeghouseforamerica.blogspot.com/2010/08/ground-zero-mosque-articles.html
Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker and a writer of Pluralism and offers pluralistic solutions for the issues of the day. He is a frequent guest in the media and his work is encapsulated in 22 Blogs and 3 websites listed at www.MikeGhouse.net
The Ground Zero Mosque is engaging the American Public and bringing out emotions and intellectualism to the forefront to tackle the issue of co-existence. The questions abound…..
In behalf of the men and women who have lost their loved ones, a few are genuinely opposing the building of the communtiy Center, a few are Altruistic and want the center to stand out as a beaocon of hope and peace and yet a few are falling prey to the political opportunists. At the end, if we envision an America that is good for all, we have to consider dropping the “me, me, and me” and yeild to what is good for America, the land of the free.
If Saudi is a bad country, why do we want to emulate them?
Continued: http://mikeghouseforamerica.blogspot.com/2010/08/ground-zero-mosque-articles.html
Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker and a writer of Pluralism and offers pluralistic solutions for the issues of the day. He is a frequent guest in the media and his work is encapsulated in 22 Blogs and 3 websites listed at www.MikeGhouse.net
Tuesday, June 22, 2010
Hate talk from Israeli leaders
THE BLOG: HATE SERMONS
http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/
Hate peddling is unfortunately human, and doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with religion, any religion. As all the religions teach to overcome hate, here are some quotes about doing unto others. http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2008/03/hate-sermons-from-pulpit.html
No one needs to rejoice, gloat, stereotype or condemn the "other" without looking inward; the ugly ones are connected to each one of us, via belonging to the same nation, same religion, same race, continent or heck, the planet earth. Knowledge allows us to at least stop barking at others as we (each one of us) deserve to be barked at as well.
This blog was created to accumulate a list of all hate mongering dialogues and work on finding solutions, as most of it is rhetoric, neither the Jewish majority means to kill the Palestinians or Hamas means to drive Israel into the ocean (Check out the interviews with Charlie Rose). Both are stances taken to assert an extreme position. We do not have honest media, they are all paid staff to deliver what is told. Sadly they highlight the ugly statement of the other and fail in their responsibility of the vice-versa. Thank God, we have hope for mankind, there is BBC and PBS still delivering honest news.
I have included Kiran Kapoor’s quotes and it is the responsibility of each one of us to refute that which is un-truth. We have to work to create a better society. I invite any and all comments to share if the following comments are not true. Finding the truth is one's own responsibility.
We have to learn to accept that the statement is not made by you or me, but you and I have the responsibility to discourage and condemn all such statements without flinching, hesitating, corrupting or defending the men and women who have made such statements. This is the reason, you find me jump on every Muslim that makes hate statements.
We are all on the same side, to do good, to create a society of harmony, as it ensures safety to you, me and every one.
Mike Ghouse
http://www.mikeghouse.net/
http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/
http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2010/06/hate-talk-from-israeli-leaders.html
While we were discussing on Zakir Naik's hate speech, a few postings emerged quoting the Israeli leaders, I have asked every one on the face book and ask here to check the veracity of the statements and comment about it.
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=444779257773&comments#!/notes/mike-ghouse/zakir-naik-banned-from-toronto-conference/444779257773
On this blog: http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2010/06/zakir-naik-banned-from-toronto.html
The sequence of the statements;
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Habib's words in English, " How can partial knowledge make one Zakir, Zakir is made through intellect." Please write in English.
Zakir is no doubt familiar with the technical knowlege of different religions, but has no ideas about the essence of the religion. He has demonstrateda complete lack of knowlege.
John Hagee has millions of followers like Naik and both have no idea of what Christianity and Islam stands for respectively.
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Kiran Kapoor:
I would love to enlighten one and all with some[i can quote dozens] of the shameless and inhumane examples of hate speech.Here they are...
1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a... See More few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001
2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.
7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969
8. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."
9. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.
10. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)
11. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.
12. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
13. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
14. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.
15."One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]
16. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).
17. "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).
18."Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset [Israeli Parliament] quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982
19."We enthusiastically chose to become a colonial society, ignoring international treaties, expropriating lands, transferring settlers from Israel to the occupied territories, engaging in theft and finding justification for all these activities. Passionately desiring to keep the occupied territories, we developed two judicial systems: one - progressive, liberal - in Israel; and the other - cruel, injurious - in the occupied territories. In effect, we established an apartheid regime in the occupied territories immediately following their capture. That oppressive regime exists to this day."
(Michael Ben-Yair, 3 March 2002)
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Our topic is Hate speech, and how we are going to deal with it, at least among the members who are accessing this thread. I have lauded the Canadian Government for banning Dr. Naik from participating in the conference.
I have deleted three comments that cursed out Muslims and Jews, that won’t add to the solutions.
Dialogue is the best available option where we can place all our cards on the table influenced by emotion, religion, injustice, frustration, anger etc… and it appears that we are placing a lot of cards.
We have a choice to be frustrated and run and that’s what we have been doing and it has not worked. Or we can face and listen to both sides and re-assess our opinions based on a full understanding of the situation.
If the goal is sustainable solutions, we need to hear opinions that we do not agree with and have the objective of finding solutions. We need to restrict speeches that are derogatory and cause misunderstandings.
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KIRAN;
I AM NOT QUESTIONING YOU, BUT ARE THESE QUOTES AUTHENTIC? CAN YOU POST THE LINKS FOR AT LEAST THREE QUOTES? I WOULD ASK OTHERS TO REFUTE, IF THEY ARE NOT LEGITIMATE.
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Here is another good piece in the Guardian
What do Dr Zakir Naik, Russian skinhead Pavel Skachevsky, far-right US talk show host Michael Savage, former Kahane Chai leader Mike Guzovsky and Kansas Baptist pastor Fred Phelps have in common? They are all on the list of people who have been banned from entering the UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/jun/22/zakir-naik-preacher-free-speech
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Kiran Kapoor @Mike:
I don't play with truth nor do I distort truth to appease or ridicule a few over here who I'm sure are still not aware of the real hate speeches in the pages of time.
I personally agree with anyone who calls Americans[Read as zionist America] as terrorists.I can give historical evidences to prove my point.The world peace is in danger because of the deceptions,violence and lies of these two terrorist states,USA and Isreal.Anyone to challenge me on that?... See More
Well,Mike here is a great article on 'Israel's History in Quotes' where u can read more on hate speech.I think Dr Zakir Naik's words do not qualify as hate speech when u go thru these real fitting examples of hate speech in not so distant history.
Here is the link... http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2008/12/31/israel-s-history-in-quotes
1]"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]...............read it here........ http://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/28/world/west-bank-massacre-israel-orders-tough-measures-against-militant-settlers.html
2]In his book, “You Gentiles,” Maurice Samuel states the following of his people, the Jews,
“We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.”
Since 1922, Maurice Samuel worked as secretary to Chaim Weizmann, the leader of the World Zionist Movement....read this at..... http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/Synagogue.of.Satan/1920-1935.htm
3] [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982 at ZIONIST INCITEMENTS TO GENOCIDE....the link..... http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Martin_Webster_01.htm
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Hi Mike, then add this to your list of hate speech too:"I personally agree with anyone who calls Americans [Read as zionist America] as terrorists." (Kirin Kapoor)If I say without qualification "Muslims are terrorists," or "Arabs are terrorists," or "Saudi Arabians are terrorists," or "Palestinians are terrorists," I am the author of hate ... See Morespeech. Hate speech uses stereotypes to demonize and label entire groups of or classes of people. It is the first step in dehumanizing them so that violence against them can be justified. Ironic, that Kirin rails against hate speech while giving vent to hate speech herself. And so the cycle of violence (verbal and physical)
Expressions such as these create an atmosphere of combustible intolerance: "Most Indians are drunks, but he's a hard worker"; "He may be a Jew, but he's not greedy"; "I'm usually careful around blacks, but he can be trusted." These statements reflect the same animosity as their more flagrant counterparts; "Indians are drunks," "Jews are greedy," ... See Moreand "blacks are dangerous."(....)
Oppressors justify inequities by making their targets out to be less than human, unworthy of fair treatment or even of mercy ordinarily shown to animals.... Negative stereotypes and ideological schemas, designed to rationalize power in the hands of dominant groups, precede crimes against humanity such as genocide. Many lives may be ruined before the views of those who rebuff popular prejudices trickle into the community conscience. Even societies striving for equality, steeped in natural rights theory, and vigilant against intolerant majorities are not wholly immune from becoming havens for supremacists promulgating aggressive ideologies. (Tsesis 2002: 2-3)--
Tsesis, Alexander. Destructive Messages: How Hate Speech Paves the Way for Harmful Social Movements.: New York University Press; 2002; pp. 2-3.
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- Robert,Indeed Kiran's statement amounts to hate speech and stereotyping. Thanks for bringing this up. Let's give her the room to clarify and share her thoughts.Zionism in its simplest form is the desire of the Jews in diaspora to live in their home land, indeed, that is the desire of most people; to be at home where they feel secure.
Zionism. encapsulates the dream of the Jewish people to have a homeland; it is an idea of life for the people. The Word Zionism conjures up different images to different people, we have to accept that bad elements are in every group, whether Zionism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism or others, we cannot brand the whole group for the acts of few, this amounts to stereotyping and it is wholesale prejudice.
Robert, I will post these three items from the thread at the blog site. Agree Hate messages are destructive to the society, especially on the Media and the mouths of the politicians, let's hope to work this up to a movement to to treat hate speech as an act of yelling fire in a crowded place
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In fairness to Kiran, I have as an American at times in private become so angry with my political leaders (i.e., Bush and his war of choice, the biased and onesided foreign policy towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, etc.) that I have said some pretty ugly things directed toward Bush and others who facilitated injustice around the world.
I think Bush/Cheney are war crminals, but fully recognized that in the realpoltic world they will never face international justice. I am no stranger to her frustration.But when we fail to differentiate people from the actions of their political leaders, we all to easy fall into the trap of assuming that everyone supports the current policies of their government. That is simply not true, and if truth matters, which it does, then we should not overlook this simple fact.
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- Robert, thanks for sharing your frustration. It irritates the heck out of me when some one blames America for the acts of a few, but we (our Media and our government representing us) do the same crap, retaliating the whole nation of Iraq, Iran or some one else for the acts of their dictators..
Bush was a "unilateralist" and his actions were anti-American, that is 72% of Americans did not approve his actions he still went ahead with it. What is the difference between him and Saddam? They were a dictatorship and we are a democarcy and bear the burden of the crimes committed in our name.I encourage dialogue, we should not be afraid of a dialogue, even if it is about hate speech. We should not shut any one, what is our fear?
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Window into Palestine
Hebrew essayist Achad Ha-Am, after paying a visit to Palestine in 1891:
"Abroad we are accustomed to believe that Israel is almost empty; nothing is grown here and that whoever wishes to buy land could come here and buy what his heart desires. In reality, the situation is not like this. Throughout the country it is difficult to find cultivable land which is not already cultivated."
Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry:
"Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."
The Balfour Declaration to Baron Rothchild, on the 2nd of November, 1917:
"His Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
Lord Sydenham, Hansard, House of Lords, 21 June 1922:
"If we are going to admit claims on conquest thousands of years ago, the whole world will have to be turned upside down."
Vladimir Jabotinsky, The Iron Wall, 1923:
"Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population - an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is our policy towards the Arabs..."
Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923:
"A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!... Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing."
David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985:
"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department in 1940. From "A Solution to the Refugee Problem":
"Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them. Not one village, not one tribe should be left."
Israeli official Arthur Lourie in a letter to Walter Eytan, director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry (ISA FM 2564/22). From Benny Morris, "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem 1947-49", p. 297:
"...if people become accustomed to the large figure and we are actually obliged to accept the return of the refugees, we may find it difficult, when faced with hordes of claimants, to convince the world that not all of these formerly lived in Israeli territory. It would, in any event, seem desirable to minimize the numbers...than otherwise."
David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben- Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978:
"We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai."
David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157:
"We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."
David Ben-Gurion, one of the father founders of Israel, described Zionist aims in 1948:
"A Christian state should be established [in Lebanon], with its southern border on the Litani river. We will make an alliance with it. When we smash the Arab Legion's strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo... And in this fashion, we will end the war and settle our forefathers' account with Egypt, Assyria, and Aram"
[Begin, and Yitzhak Shamir who were members of the party became Prime Ministers.] Albert Einstein, Hanna Arendt and other prominent Jewish Americans, writing in The New York Times, protest the visit to America of Menachem Begin, December 1948:
"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our time is the emergence in the newly created State of Israel of the Freedom Party (Herut), a political party closely akin in its organization, method, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties."
Martin Buber, Jewish Philosopher, addressed Prime Minister Ben Gurion on the moral character of the state of Israel with reference to the Arab refugees in March 1949:
"We will have to face the reality that Israel is neither innocent, nor redemptive. And that in its creation, and expansion; we as Jews, have caused what we historically have suffered; a refugee population in Diaspora."
Moshe Dayan (Israel Defense and Foreign Minister), on February 12 1952. Radio "Israel.":
"It lies upon the people's shoulders to prepare for the war, but it lies upon the Israeli army to carry out the fight with the ultimate object of erecting the Israeli Empire."
Martin Buber, to a New York audience, Jewish Newsletter, June 2, 1958:
"When we [followers of the prophetic Judaism] returned to Palestine...the majority of Jewish people preferred to learn from Hitler rather than from us."
Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas:
Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters"
Aba Eban (the Israeli Foreign Minister) stated arrogantly. New York Times June 19, 1967:
"If the General Assembly were to vote by 121 votes to 1 in favor of "Israel" returning to the armistice lines-- (pre June 1967 borders)
Dr. Israel Shahak, Chairperson of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights, and a survivor of the Bergen Belsen concentration camp, Commenting on the Israeli military's Emergency Regulations following the 1967 War. Palestine, vol. 12, December 1983:
"Hitler's legal power was based upon the 'Enabling Act', which was passed quite legally by the Reichstag and which allowed the Fuehrer and his representatives, in plain language, to be what they wanted, or in legal language, to issue regulations having the force of law. Exactly the same type of act was passed by the Knesset [Israeli's Parliament] immediately after the 1067 conquest granting the Israeli governor and his representatives the power of Hitler, which they use in Hitlerian manner."
Golda Meir, March 8, 1969:
"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to."
Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969:
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al- Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969:
"There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed"
Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972:
"The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war."
Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972:
"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."
Joseph Weitz, Director of the Jewish National Fund, the Zionist agency charged with acquiring Palestinian land, Circa 194. Machover Israca, January 5, 1973 /p.2:
"The only solution is Eretz Israel [Greater Israel], or at least Western Eretz Israel [all the land west of Jordan River], without Arabs. There is no room for compromise on this point ... We must not leave a single village, not a single tribe."
Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979:
"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out'"
Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982:
"[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."
Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983:
"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle."
Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983:
"We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours."
Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983:
"We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves."
Isreali Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir, in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988:
"The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
Israeli Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, Inferring that killing isn't murder if the victim is Gentile. Jerusalem Post, June 19,1989:
"Jewish blood and a goy's [gentile's] blood are not the same."
Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, tells students at Bar Ilan University, From the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989:
"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service:
"The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the Jordan River for future generations, for the mass aliya [immigration], and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country."
Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15,1998:
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them."
Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000:
"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more"...
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000:
"If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force...."
Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001:
"There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies? Not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy."
Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio:
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
"Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum":
"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."
Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5:
"There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. I tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary."
Ben Gurion:
In 1899, Davis Triestsch wrote to Herzl: " I would suggest to you to come round in time to the "Greater Palestine" program before it is too late... the Basle program must contain the words "Great Palestine" or "Palestine and its neighboring lands" otherwise it's nonsense. You do not get ten million Jews into a land of 25,000 Km2". " The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill -- From the Nile to the Euphrates."
Vladimir Jabotinsky (the founder and advocate of the Zionist terrorist organizations), Quoted by Maxime Rodinson in Peuple Juif ou Problem Juif. (Jewish People or Jewish Problem):
"Has any People ever been seen to give up their territory of their own free will? In the same way, the Arabs of Palestine will not renounce their sovereignty without violence."
David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121:
"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
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Hate peddling is unfortunately human, and doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with religion, any religion. As all the religions teach to overcome hate, here are some quotes about doing unto others. http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2008/03/hate-sermons-from-pulpit.html
No one needs to rejoice, gloat, stereotype or condemn the "other" without looking inward; the ugly ones are connected to each one of us, via belonging to the same nation, same religion, same race, continent or heck, the planet earth. Knowledge allows us to at least stop barking at others as we (each one of us) deserve to be barked at as well.
This blog was created to accumulate a list of all hate mongering dialogues and work on finding solutions, as most of it is rhetoric, neither the Jewish majority means to kill the Palestinians or Hamas means to drive Israel into the ocean (Check out the interviews with Charlie Rose). Both are stances taken to assert an extreme position. We do not have honest media, they are all paid staff to deliver what is told. Sadly they highlight the ugly statement of the other and fail in their responsibility of the vice-versa. Thank God, we have hope for mankind, there is BBC and PBS still delivering honest news.
I have included Kiran Kapoor’s quotes and it is the responsibility of each one of us to refute that which is un-truth. We have to work to create a better society. I invite any and all comments to share if the following comments are not true. Finding the truth is one's own responsibility.
We have to learn to accept that the statement is not made by you or me, but you and I have the responsibility to discourage and condemn all such statements without flinching, hesitating, corrupting or defending the men and women who have made such statements. This is the reason, you find me jump on every Muslim that makes hate statements.
We are all on the same side, to do good, to create a society of harmony, as it ensures safety to you, me and every one.
Mike Ghouse
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http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2010/06/hate-talk-from-israeli-leaders.html
While we were discussing on Zakir Naik's hate speech, a few postings emerged quoting the Israeli leaders, I have asked every one on the face book and ask here to check the veracity of the statements and comment about it.
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=444779257773&comments#!/notes/mike-ghouse/zakir-naik-banned-from-toronto-conference/444779257773
On this blog: http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2010/06/zakir-naik-banned-from-toronto.html
The sequence of the statements;
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Habib's words in English, " How can partial knowledge make one Zakir, Zakir is made through intellect." Please write in English.
Zakir is no doubt familiar with the technical knowlege of different religions, but has no ideas about the essence of the religion. He has demonstrateda complete lack of knowlege.
John Hagee has millions of followers like Naik and both have no idea of what Christianity and Islam stands for respectively.
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Kiran Kapoor:
I would love to enlighten one and all with some[i can quote dozens] of the shameless and inhumane examples of hate speech.Here they are...
1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a... See More few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001
2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.
7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969
8. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."
9. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.
10. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)
11. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.
12. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
13. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
14. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.
15."One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]
16. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).
17. "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).
18."Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset [Israeli Parliament] quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982
19."We enthusiastically chose to become a colonial society, ignoring international treaties, expropriating lands, transferring settlers from Israel to the occupied territories, engaging in theft and finding justification for all these activities. Passionately desiring to keep the occupied territories, we developed two judicial systems: one - progressive, liberal - in Israel; and the other - cruel, injurious - in the occupied territories. In effect, we established an apartheid regime in the occupied territories immediately following their capture. That oppressive regime exists to this day."
(Michael Ben-Yair, 3 March 2002)
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Our topic is Hate speech, and how we are going to deal with it, at least among the members who are accessing this thread. I have lauded the Canadian Government for banning Dr. Naik from participating in the conference.
I have deleted three comments that cursed out Muslims and Jews, that won’t add to the solutions.
Dialogue is the best available option where we can place all our cards on the table influenced by emotion, religion, injustice, frustration, anger etc… and it appears that we are placing a lot of cards.
We have a choice to be frustrated and run and that’s what we have been doing and it has not worked. Or we can face and listen to both sides and re-assess our opinions based on a full understanding of the situation.
If the goal is sustainable solutions, we need to hear opinions that we do not agree with and have the objective of finding solutions. We need to restrict speeches that are derogatory and cause misunderstandings.
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KIRAN;
I AM NOT QUESTIONING YOU, BUT ARE THESE QUOTES AUTHENTIC? CAN YOU POST THE LINKS FOR AT LEAST THREE QUOTES? I WOULD ASK OTHERS TO REFUTE, IF THEY ARE NOT LEGITIMATE.
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Here is another good piece in the Guardian
What do Dr Zakir Naik, Russian skinhead Pavel Skachevsky, far-right US talk show host Michael Savage, former Kahane Chai leader Mike Guzovsky and Kansas Baptist pastor Fred Phelps have in common? They are all on the list of people who have been banned from entering the UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/jun/22/zakir-naik-preacher-free-speech
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Kiran Kapoor @Mike:
I don't play with truth nor do I distort truth to appease or ridicule a few over here who I'm sure are still not aware of the real hate speeches in the pages of time.
I personally agree with anyone who calls Americans[Read as zionist America] as terrorists.I can give historical evidences to prove my point.The world peace is in danger because of the deceptions,violence and lies of these two terrorist states,USA and Isreal.Anyone to challenge me on that?... See More
Well,Mike here is a great article on 'Israel's History in Quotes' where u can read more on hate speech.I think Dr Zakir Naik's words do not qualify as hate speech when u go thru these real fitting examples of hate speech in not so distant history.
Here is the link... http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2008/12/31/israel-s-history-in-quotes
1]"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]...............read it here........ http://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/28/world/west-bank-massacre-israel-orders-tough-measures-against-militant-settlers.html
2]In his book, “You Gentiles,” Maurice Samuel states the following of his people, the Jews,
“We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.”
Since 1922, Maurice Samuel worked as secretary to Chaim Weizmann, the leader of the World Zionist Movement....read this at..... http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/Synagogue.of.Satan/1920-1935.htm
3] [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982 at ZIONIST INCITEMENTS TO GENOCIDE....the link..... http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Martin_Webster_01.htm
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Hi Mike, then add this to your list of hate speech too:"I personally agree with anyone who calls Americans [Read as zionist America] as terrorists." (Kirin Kapoor)If I say without qualification "Muslims are terrorists," or "Arabs are terrorists," or "Saudi Arabians are terrorists," or "Palestinians are terrorists," I am the author of hate ... See Morespeech. Hate speech uses stereotypes to demonize and label entire groups of or classes of people. It is the first step in dehumanizing them so that violence against them can be justified. Ironic, that Kirin rails against hate speech while giving vent to hate speech herself. And so the cycle of violence (verbal and physical)
Expressions such as these create an atmosphere of combustible intolerance: "Most Indians are drunks, but he's a hard worker"; "He may be a Jew, but he's not greedy"; "I'm usually careful around blacks, but he can be trusted." These statements reflect the same animosity as their more flagrant counterparts; "Indians are drunks," "Jews are greedy," ... See Moreand "blacks are dangerous."(....)
Oppressors justify inequities by making their targets out to be less than human, unworthy of fair treatment or even of mercy ordinarily shown to animals.... Negative stereotypes and ideological schemas, designed to rationalize power in the hands of dominant groups, precede crimes against humanity such as genocide. Many lives may be ruined before the views of those who rebuff popular prejudices trickle into the community conscience. Even societies striving for equality, steeped in natural rights theory, and vigilant against intolerant majorities are not wholly immune from becoming havens for supremacists promulgating aggressive ideologies. (Tsesis 2002: 2-3)--
Tsesis, Alexander. Destructive Messages: How Hate Speech Paves the Way for Harmful Social Movements.: New York University Press; 2002; pp. 2-3.
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- Robert,Indeed Kiran's statement amounts to hate speech and stereotyping. Thanks for bringing this up. Let's give her the room to clarify and share her thoughts.Zionism in its simplest form is the desire of the Jews in diaspora to live in their home land, indeed, that is the desire of most people; to be at home where they feel secure.
Zionism. encapsulates the dream of the Jewish people to have a homeland; it is an idea of life for the people. The Word Zionism conjures up different images to different people, we have to accept that bad elements are in every group, whether Zionism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism or others, we cannot brand the whole group for the acts of few, this amounts to stereotyping and it is wholesale prejudice.
Robert, I will post these three items from the thread at the blog site. Agree Hate messages are destructive to the society, especially on the Media and the mouths of the politicians, let's hope to work this up to a movement to to treat hate speech as an act of yelling fire in a crowded place
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In fairness to Kiran, I have as an American at times in private become so angry with my political leaders (i.e., Bush and his war of choice, the biased and onesided foreign policy towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, etc.) that I have said some pretty ugly things directed toward Bush and others who facilitated injustice around the world.
I think Bush/Cheney are war crminals, but fully recognized that in the realpoltic world they will never face international justice. I am no stranger to her frustration.But when we fail to differentiate people from the actions of their political leaders, we all to easy fall into the trap of assuming that everyone supports the current policies of their government. That is simply not true, and if truth matters, which it does, then we should not overlook this simple fact.
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- Robert, thanks for sharing your frustration. It irritates the heck out of me when some one blames America for the acts of a few, but we (our Media and our government representing us) do the same crap, retaliating the whole nation of Iraq, Iran or some one else for the acts of their dictators..
Bush was a "unilateralist" and his actions were anti-American, that is 72% of Americans did not approve his actions he still went ahead with it. What is the difference between him and Saddam? They were a dictatorship and we are a democarcy and bear the burden of the crimes committed in our name.I encourage dialogue, we should not be afraid of a dialogue, even if it is about hate speech. We should not shut any one, what is our fear?
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Window into Palestine
Hebrew essayist Achad Ha-Am, after paying a visit to Palestine in 1891:
"Abroad we are accustomed to believe that Israel is almost empty; nothing is grown here and that whoever wishes to buy land could come here and buy what his heart desires. In reality, the situation is not like this. Throughout the country it is difficult to find cultivable land which is not already cultivated."
Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry:
"Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."
The Balfour Declaration to Baron Rothchild, on the 2nd of November, 1917:
"His Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
Lord Sydenham, Hansard, House of Lords, 21 June 1922:
"If we are going to admit claims on conquest thousands of years ago, the whole world will have to be turned upside down."
Vladimir Jabotinsky, The Iron Wall, 1923:
"Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population - an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is our policy towards the Arabs..."
Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923:
"A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!... Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing."
David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985:
"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department in 1940. From "A Solution to the Refugee Problem":
"Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them. Not one village, not one tribe should be left."
Israeli official Arthur Lourie in a letter to Walter Eytan, director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry (ISA FM 2564/22). From Benny Morris, "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem 1947-49", p. 297:
"...if people become accustomed to the large figure and we are actually obliged to accept the return of the refugees, we may find it difficult, when faced with hordes of claimants, to convince the world that not all of these formerly lived in Israeli territory. It would, in any event, seem desirable to minimize the numbers...than otherwise."
David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben- Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978:
"We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai."
David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157:
"We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."
David Ben-Gurion, one of the father founders of Israel, described Zionist aims in 1948:
"A Christian state should be established [in Lebanon], with its southern border on the Litani river. We will make an alliance with it. When we smash the Arab Legion's strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo... And in this fashion, we will end the war and settle our forefathers' account with Egypt, Assyria, and Aram"
[Begin, and Yitzhak Shamir who were members of the party became Prime Ministers.] Albert Einstein, Hanna Arendt and other prominent Jewish Americans, writing in The New York Times, protest the visit to America of Menachem Begin, December 1948:
"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our time is the emergence in the newly created State of Israel of the Freedom Party (Herut), a political party closely akin in its organization, method, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties."
Martin Buber, Jewish Philosopher, addressed Prime Minister Ben Gurion on the moral character of the state of Israel with reference to the Arab refugees in March 1949:
"We will have to face the reality that Israel is neither innocent, nor redemptive. And that in its creation, and expansion; we as Jews, have caused what we historically have suffered; a refugee population in Diaspora."
Moshe Dayan (Israel Defense and Foreign Minister), on February 12 1952. Radio "Israel.":
"It lies upon the people's shoulders to prepare for the war, but it lies upon the Israeli army to carry out the fight with the ultimate object of erecting the Israeli Empire."
Martin Buber, to a New York audience, Jewish Newsletter, June 2, 1958:
"When we [followers of the prophetic Judaism] returned to Palestine...the majority of Jewish people preferred to learn from Hitler rather than from us."
Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas:
Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters"
Aba Eban (the Israeli Foreign Minister) stated arrogantly. New York Times June 19, 1967:
"If the General Assembly were to vote by 121 votes to 1 in favor of "Israel" returning to the armistice lines-- (pre June 1967 borders)
Dr. Israel Shahak, Chairperson of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights, and a survivor of the Bergen Belsen concentration camp, Commenting on the Israeli military's Emergency Regulations following the 1967 War. Palestine, vol. 12, December 1983:
"Hitler's legal power was based upon the 'Enabling Act', which was passed quite legally by the Reichstag and which allowed the Fuehrer and his representatives, in plain language, to be what they wanted, or in legal language, to issue regulations having the force of law. Exactly the same type of act was passed by the Knesset [Israeli's Parliament] immediately after the 1067 conquest granting the Israeli governor and his representatives the power of Hitler, which they use in Hitlerian manner."
Golda Meir, March 8, 1969:
"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to."
Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969:
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al- Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969:
"There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed"
Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972:
"The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war."
Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972:
"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."
Joseph Weitz, Director of the Jewish National Fund, the Zionist agency charged with acquiring Palestinian land, Circa 194. Machover Israca, January 5, 1973 /p.2:
"The only solution is Eretz Israel [Greater Israel], or at least Western Eretz Israel [all the land west of Jordan River], without Arabs. There is no room for compromise on this point ... We must not leave a single village, not a single tribe."
Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979:
"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out'"
Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982:
"[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."
Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983:
"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle."
Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983:
"We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours."
Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983:
"We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves."
Isreali Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir, in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988:
"The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
Israeli Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, Inferring that killing isn't murder if the victim is Gentile. Jerusalem Post, June 19,1989:
"Jewish blood and a goy's [gentile's] blood are not the same."
Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, tells students at Bar Ilan University, From the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989:
"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service:
"The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the Jordan River for future generations, for the mass aliya [immigration], and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country."
Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15,1998:
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them."
Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000:
"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more"...
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000:
"If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force...."
Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001:
"There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies? Not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy."
Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio:
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
"Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum":
"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."
Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5:
"There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. I tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary."
Ben Gurion:
In 1899, Davis Triestsch wrote to Herzl: " I would suggest to you to come round in time to the "Greater Palestine" program before it is too late... the Basle program must contain the words "Great Palestine" or "Palestine and its neighboring lands" otherwise it's nonsense. You do not get ten million Jews into a land of 25,000 Km2". " The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill -- From the Nile to the Euphrates."
Vladimir Jabotinsky (the founder and advocate of the Zionist terrorist organizations), Quoted by Maxime Rodinson in Peuple Juif ou Problem Juif. (Jewish People or Jewish Problem):
"Has any People ever been seen to give up their territory of their own free will? In the same way, the Arabs of Palestine will not renounce their sovereignty without violence."
David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121:
"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
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Monday, June 21, 2010
Zakir Naik banned from Toronto conference
We applaud the Canadian move on banning hate speeches.It is our duty to keep law and order and faithfully guard the safety of every citizen. Hate is one of the many sources of disrupting the peace in a society and it is our responsibility to track down the source of such hate and work on mitigating it. We have an obligation to maintain a balance in the society. When we are at peace, we can generate peace and we can expect peace around us. Our words and actions should mitigate conflicts and nurture reconciliation and goodwill.
We must stand up and support free speech, but when it messes with the peace of the society, it is “free” no more, it ‘un-frees” people and slaves them to hate. A hate speech can create chaos and fear in the society as much as a man yelling in the crowd “Fire”. The issue must be of law and order.
If in fact Dr. Naik has said this non-sense, “There are many Jews who are good to Muslims, but as a whole, the Koran tells us, as a whole, they will be our staunchest enemy.” We condemn his statement without reservation.
God clearly and repeatedly says in Quraan that whether your are a Jew, Christian or otherwise, you are guaranteed a place in heaven provided you are good to fellow beings and your environment. That is the only requirment to earn the creator's grace; to be good to fellow beings.
He has a right to free speech, but not malign Islam with non-sense like this statement. Where the heck did he get his Islam from? Does the man understand Islam means peace? Does he understand that God is not prejudiced? It is men like him and a few who worked for the previous administration who chop up God into bits and pieces, your God v. my God.
Who wants a God that hates his own creation, he is reducing God to be his God, a bad guy and not beneficent and merciful God that adorns every chapter in Quraan. He does not get Islam right.
The overwhelming majority of Muslims show respect to all religions as the Prophet did, indeed, Muslims are forbidden to ridicule any religion.
I know I will be rebuked by a few right winger Muslims, so be it, I will not let any idiot make my faith or any one's faith to be misrepresented, and the universal God to be reduced to a God who tells bad things about his own creation? That is not Islam he is preaching. It is time we the moderates speak up and not twiddle our thumbs and let a few men get away from their non-sense.
Canada’s decision to ban Zakir Naik from Toronto conference is good news indeed. And I sincerely hope this will set the precedent to nail all the hate monger’s wearing masks of Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and other religions. They are a nuisance; individuals like Gabrielle Bridgette, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Nonie Derwish, Alan Dershowitz, Rod Parsely, John Hagee, Billy Graham Jr. and a whole lot more need to be analyzed for the hatred they breed. For a briefing on these men and women, please visit the blog: http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/
Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker, writer, optimist, educator and an activist of Pluralism, Justice, Islam, India, Peace and Civil Societies. He is a conflict mitigater and a goodwill nurturer offering pluralistic solutions on issues of the day and is a frequent guest on the media. Mike's work is reflected at three websites & twenty two Blogs listed at http://www.mikeghouse.net/
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June 21, 2010
Controversial Muslim televangelist
Zakir Naik banned from Toronto conference
Kathryn Blaze Carlson
The National Post, Toronto
http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/21/controversial-muslim-televangelist-zakir-naik-banned-from-toronto-conference/
An Indian Muslim televangelist who was banned from Britain last week for “unacceptable behaviour” will not be allowed into Canada to speak at an upcoming conference in Toronto, sources familiar with the situation have told the National Post.
Dr. Zakir Naik, who has said “every Muslim should be a terrorist” and that Jews are “our staunchest enemy,” was to headline next month’s Journey of Faith Conference — which is billed as one of North America’s largest Islamic conferences and is expected to attract upward of 10,000 people.
Dr. Naik, the Mumbai-based founder of Peace TV and a widely respected lecturer in India, has a laundry list of views that could have led to his exclusion from the U.K. and Canada, both of which require an Indian citizen to obtain a visitor visa.
The 44-year-old medical doctor recommends capital punishment for homosexuals and the death penalty for those who abandon Islam as their faith.
He has said that a man is within his right to beat his wife “lightly,” though in a July 2009 YouTube video he cautioned against hitting her on the face or leaving a mark. The “Keep Zakir Naik Out of Canada” Facebook group, which was launched over the weekend, also points out his view that western women make themselves “more susceptible to rape” by wearing revealing clothing.
Among the chief reasons, British Home Secretary Theresa May decided to quash Dr. Naik’s U.K. speaking tour later this month, however, were comments he made in a widely circulated 2007 video.
“If [Osama bin Laden] is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him … If he is terrorizing a terrorist, if he is terrorizing America the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, I am with him,” said Dr. Naik, who has delivered hundreds of talks in India, Canada, the U.S. and the Middle East. “Every Muslim should be a terrorist.”
Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, said he and the congress have been informed that Dr. Naik will be “stopped at the airport,” and sources familiar with the situation confirmed Dr. Naik does not have a visa to enter Canada.
“We are very happy that government agencies, having been made aware of his statements, have taken this decision,” Mr. Fatah said, adding that he sent a mass email to federal MPs last week, warning them of Dr. Naik’s views. “We certainly don’t want hate-mongers to come here.”
“To me, the rules as to who can come into this country were written for this kind of person,” echoed Bernie Farber, CEO of the Canadian Jewish Congress. “The comments are highly inflammatory, and highly provocative. When you put them together in one cauldron, you have a stew of hatred.”
Dr. Naik, president of the Islamic Research Foundation in Mumbai, was reached via email on Monday but would not comment on his pending visit to Toronto. In fact, Dr. Naik may not yet know that he is unwelcome in Canada, sources said.
In his email to the National Post, Dr. Naik pointed to a June 20 statement regarding the “overzealous and islamophobic exclusion order” issued by the U.K. The statement seeks to clarify his comments, which the foundation argues were “taken out of context.”
The Journey of Faith Conference is chaired by Imam Saed Rageah, whose Toronto mosque, the Abu Huraira Centre, made headlines last fall after a group of young worshippers vanished and were feared to have joined a Somali militant group. Imam Ragaeh declined an interview request yesterday, but passed along a web video via email of Dr. Naik defending his comments and promising to challenge the U.K. ban.
According to the Journey of Faith event website, the “hope” of the July 2-4 conference at the downtown Metro Toronto Convention Centre is for Muslims to “renew their forgotten relationship” with the Quran. As of last night, the site still listed Dr. Naik as a featured speaker.
Citizenship and Immigration Canada declined to comment on the case yesterday, citing the Privacy Act.
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Monday, June 7, 2010
HAGEES HATE SERMONS ON PBS
John Hagee again
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/watch2.html
Has any one investigated Hagee's motivation for his crusade? Is it the lavish life style?
What is he getting out of preaching hate?
How is he anything less than those terrorists who want to annhilate others?
Isn't he terrorizing the other people living in Israel?
I do hope that a majority of this attendees are for entertainment and his oratory skills and not bleieve in hate and destruction of God's universe.
I pray that God guides him to be a man of peace, he can turn his passion into peace for the people out there. Israel can be secure, if they can take a firm stand to follow the rule of law and justice for all.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/watch2.html
Has any one investigated Hagee's motivation for his crusade? Is it the lavish life style?
What is he getting out of preaching hate?
How is he anything less than those terrorists who want to annhilate others?
Isn't he terrorizing the other people living in Israel?
I do hope that a majority of this attendees are for entertainment and his oratory skills and not bleieve in hate and destruction of God's universe.
I pray that God guides him to be a man of peace, he can turn his passion into peace for the people out there. Israel can be secure, if they can take a firm stand to follow the rule of law and justice for all.
Thursday, May 6, 2010
TODAY IS NATIONAL PRAYER DAY Let’s pray, reflect or wish;
TODAY IS NATIONAL PRAYER DAY Let's pray, reflect or wish;
Dear God, guide us do the right thing every moment of our lives.
Dear God, guide us open our hearts and minds to fellow beings;
Dear God, guide us the humility to respect your creation.
Dear God, guide us shed the arrogance in us that we are superior,
Dear God, guide us learn to respect and accept every which way one worships you.
Dear God, guide us do the right thing every moment of our lives.
Dear God, guide us open our hearts and minds to fellow beings;
Dear God, guide us the humility to respect your creation.
Dear God, guide us shed the arrogance in us that we are superior,
Dear God, guide us learn to respect and accept every which way one worships you.
Dear God, guide us to become conflict mitigators
Dear God, guide us to become good will nurturers
Dear God, guide to us create the kingdom of heaven for every one of the 7 billion of us
Amen
Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker, writer and an activist of Pluralism, Justice, Islam, India and Civil Societies. He is a conflict mitigater and a goodwill nurturer offering pluralistic solutions to issues of the day. http://www.mikeghouse.net/
Sunday, May 2, 2010
Ghouse speaks at Dallas Immigration rally
May 1, 2010. "If you cannot stand up for the rights of others, why should any one stand up for you?" It was an honor to be among 10 civil rights leaders of Dallas to lead the March.
4 MINUTES VIDEO AT YOU TUBE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrjU0KULv-Y
Good Afternoon, I am standing here today because a lady by the name Rosa Parks stood up for her rights and her right to be treated with dignity.
I am standing here today as an immigrant because some one gave up his life to bring civil rights to America and it was this singular act that caused all of us immigrants to be here in America to enrich our nation.
Continued at: http://mikeghouseforamerica.blogspot.com/2010/05/ghouse-speaks-at-dallas-mega-march-2010.html
4 MINUTES VIDEO AT YOU TUBE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrjU0KULv-Y
Good Afternoon, I am standing here today because a lady by the name Rosa Parks stood up for her rights and her right to be treated with dignity.
I am standing here today as an immigrant because some one gave up his life to bring civil rights to America and it was this singular act that caused all of us immigrants to be here in America to enrich our nation.
Continued at: http://mikeghouseforamerica.blogspot.com/2010/05/ghouse-speaks-at-dallas-mega-march-2010.html
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
South Park incident with a Muslim
South Park incident with a MuslimFirst of all the idiots who threatened the South Park producers must be condemned and rounded up without any delay. It is a law and order issue. One of the pieces of my conversation with Sean Hannity was about the South Park incident
2. Secondly, it is really not a Muslim or an Islamic issue, it is an issue of radicals who do not like the freedom of others, it is about the people who like to mess other's peace. It is not a Muslim issue because
Continued: http://mikeghouseforamerica.blogspot.com/2010/04/south-park-incident-with-muslim.html
Saturday, March 13, 2010
Hate talks coming out of synagogues
Dealing with Islam Bashers like Wafa Sultanhttp://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2010/03/hate-talks-coming-out-of-synagogues.html
I would expect an Islam basher, to at least have some cooked up logic or basis for the hate, Wafa Sultan is simply a bellyacher. She must have had a traumatic childhood, which I understand, and I do feel the anguish she has harbored and certainly would extend my sympathy and condemn those shameless rascals. Instead of blaming the wrong doers, Wafa Sultan has chosen to blame their religion.
My biggest surprise was that the "hate speeches were allowed to spew out from the synagogues". Why did the Jews allow such hateful speeches from a sanctuary of God? A few Mosques used the pulpit to do that, they have all been guarded by the assertive moderate majority, no more crap will be allowed from Mosques, at least the one’s I know. At this time no Mosque in United States is allowing hate mongers to speak from their grounds.A few years ago in Los Angeles, several Jews walked out of a synagogue when Wafa Sultan was running her mouth. I was proud of those Jews who walked out. We do not want hate to multiply and do more harm to the society.
I am also pleased that Dr. Pipes spoke up, although it suited him to let Wafa Sultan do the Islam bashing.
A documentary is in the order depicting how the Neocons have made hate mongering as their fund raising tactic. I have personally witnessed and written about such incidents. “Frighten the crap out of those dumbos with money and out they open their check books” to write to the crap motivators. The Neocon Jews do it, the Neocon Christians make a killing with Islamophobia and the Neocon Muslims also resort to this technique and just recently the Hindu Neocons have figured out how to fill their pockets, one French fellow has bulldozed them with the idea of a Hindu Holocaust Museum and the suckers have opened their check books.
Wafa Sultan does not give a crap about any one, let alone Jews, she has found that she can make big money by frightening those suckers and asking for the donations.
What can we, the ordinary people from all faith do about it? We should attend these events and remind the people to think twice, is their money aggravating the situation or making it better for them? Are they funding hate or peace?
Mike Ghouse is a frequent guest at the media offering pluralistic solutions to issues of the day. He is a thinker, writer, speaker, optimist and an activist of Pluralism, Interfaith, Co-existence, Peace, Islam and India. His work is reflected at 3 websites & 22 Blogs listed at http://www.mikeghouse.net/
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March 12, 2010
From an ex-Muslim, true Islamophobia
Tarek Fatah
The National Post, Toronto
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=2673117
The words stung me like a jolt of electricity: "Muhammad was a child rapist." As if the slur were not sufficient, the speaker then insinuated my Islamic faith was filth. "I am 'clean' of Islam," she sneered to her Toronto audience. As far as hate speech goes, the shoe was suddenly on the other foot.For years, radical Islamists have cited freedom of speech to defend their attacks on Christians, Jews, Hindus and liberal non-observant Muslims.
A hateful tone is never far from the surface -- although great care is taken to couch this cancer in ambiguity and double-speak. Take for instance the Toronto imam caught on videotape praying to Allah for the "defeat of the kufaar," a thinly disguised reference to Christians and Jews.As a Muslim, I learned very early in life to walk in my adversaries' shoes to feel their pain. This is why I have not shied away from calling a spade a spade and outing the segregationist hate mongers within my community, an effort that has paid dividends in the slow decline of overt anti-Semitism and Hindu-hatred in the public religious discourse of Western Muslims.But last week, it was not a Muslim cleric whose speech traumatized me; it was the words of an ex-Muslim.
Even a hardened secular Muslim such as myself was deeply hurt by what I heard that evening. I also was disappointed that the speech was at a synagogue, and the audience almost all Jews.
Dr. Wafa Sultan
The speaker who caused me this anguish was Wafa Sultan, the Syrian-born American who shot to fame after her appearance on Al Jazeera Television in 2006, where she tore into the arguments of cleric Ibrahim al-Khouli about the ills of Muslim society. The 30-second clip went viral and won great acclaim even among Muslims who respected her for her candid and honest critique of what ails us as a people.However, instead of using her newfound fame to challenge the established theocracies and corrupt kingdoms of the Middle east, Sultan veered off the deep end and could not resist the temptation of becoming the poster child of Islam haters, joining their ranks with the fervour of a convert.
Inside a Toronto synagogue last week, where she was debating with Prof. Daniel Pipes whether moderate Islam was a Western ally or a Western myth, Dr.Sultan wasted no time in lashing out at her former faith. Catering to the fears of her predominantly Jewish audience, she said, "Muhammad was a Jew killer." To further inflame the crowd, Wafa Sultan delivered an astonishing account of how the Prophet had slaughtered Jews and then raped the wife of the defeated Jewish tribal chief.
The vitriol was so severe, it was left to the two Jewish speakers at the debate, the moderator Avi Benlolo and Prof. Pipes to praise Muslims and mention the fact that moderate Muslims were rising up against extremism. Benlolo specifically mentioned the recent 600-page fatwa by the Pakistani cleric Tahir ul Qadri denouncing suicide bombing and terrorism.
However, Wafa Sultan would not have any of that. She chided both Benlolo and Pipes for their naivete. "There is no moderate Islam," she wagged her finger at Pipes. There was only one Islam, she claimed-- the Islam of rape, murder and hate.
To his credit -- and this will surprise many of his Muslim naysayers --Daniel Pipes reminded his Jewish audience that Islam was not the bogeyman it has been made out to be. "Remember, for over 1,000 years, whenever Jews needed a place for sanctuary, they got it in Muslim lands ...
The problem is not Islam, it is Islamism," he told them.I left the synagogue deeply disturbed. In the fight against Islamofascism, Wafa Sultan's hatred of Islam was cultivating the very forces she claims to be exposing. When a questioner asked her "What is the solution?" she just shrugged her shoulders. Perhaps the answer she had in mind was too outrageous even by her own standards: Force Muslims to convert or die. Five hundred years ago, Isabel and Ferdinand "cleansed" Spain of Islam and Muslims, but we are still here. Surely, we can think of more productive solutions -- and devote our attention to more productive minds -- than this.---------
-Tarek Fatah is the author of Chasing a Mirage: The Tragic Illusion of an Islamic State. His next book, Unveiling the Myths that Fuel Muslim Anti- Semitism (McClelland & Stewart), will be launched in October 2010.
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Tuesday, February 23, 2010
Program at SMU to explore Texas Holocaust and Genocide Commission
I am glad to see the comments from Mr. Kaul, and thank God, we were able to include all human failures and tragedies in our program on January 24th. I invite every one to join to nights program at SMU and learn a different perspective. www.HolocuastandGenocides.comProgram at SMU to explore Texas Holocaust and Genocide Commission | |
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http://religionblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/02/program-at-smu-to-explore-texa.html
The release below gives details on a fast-approaching program at Southern Methodist University:
On Tuesday evening (Feb. 23) at 7 p.m. at SMU's Hughes-Trigg Theater in the Hughes-Trigg Student Center (http://smu.edu/maps/flash/) , the Dallas Holocaust Museum/Center for Education and Tolerance (www.dallasholocaustmuseum.org) is hosting a special program exploring the role of the newly-established Texas Holocaust and Genocide Commission.
The program is free and open to the public, and complimentary valet parking is provided.
The Commission was established during the last session of the Legislature and signed into law last summer. State Sen. Florence Shapiro (R-Plano) and State Sen. Rodney Ellis (D-Houston) co-sponsored the bill creating the commission, which was passed unanimously.
Texas is the nation's 13th state to establish a commission or council devoted to Holocaust and genocide education. By law, the commission--considered the most important development in Holocaust education in Texas in years--is to help preserve information and experiences of the Holocaust and other genocide events. The commission will also work with organizations, agencies, museums, survivors and liberators to provide information and experiences and to coordinate memorial events in the state.
The SMU program will explore the commission's purpose in a Q&A format moderated by Texas Tribune Editor Evan Smith, formerly president and editor-in-chief of Texas Monthly. The panelists include Senator Shapiro; Peter Berkowitz, a Houston business executive who chairs the commission; Amy Fisher-Smith, an associate professor of psychology at University of Dallas, and a Holocaust educator; and Elliott Dlin, Museum Director of the Dallas Holocaust Museum/Center for Education and Tolerance.
Texas is home to several hundred Holocaust survivors, and a few are expected to attend the event, co-sponsored by the Memnosyne Foundation (http://memnosynefoundation.org/) and the SMU Human Rights Program (http://smu.edu/humanrights/)
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I am glad to see our state passed the bill to recognize Holocaust and Genocides. I hope Dallasites will take the time to attend the program and learn and reflect upon the terrible things that we humans have inflicted upon each other.
The Jewish community has borne the suffering of the Holocaust for over sixty years; it is time for us to share it. No community should bear the suffering alone; we all have to stand up, and be there for each other.
Thank God the awareness is increasing; from one event in 2006 by the American Muslims, it has grown to three events this year; the III Annual Reflections on Holocaust and Genocides on 24th, the Gay and Lesbian commeration on 27th and now this event by the Holocaust Museusm in collobration with the Memnosyne Foundation.
Holocaust was a major human tragedy and a failure of humanity.
And perhaps the first time in our history that we acknowledged the genocides of the indigenous Americans and Native peoples of Americas in a public forum along with other tragedies.
I want to applaud the people of Dallas for attending the event. They were Atheists, Bahai, Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Jain, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Wicca, Zoroastrians and from sevral ethnicities and nationalities.
It was an educational program, where 7 speakers reflected on 7 topics for 7 minutes each. Then 7 commentators made comments about 7 different situations. The topics ranged from the Holocaust to Genocides, massacres and tragedies.
Among Genocides, Massacres and other tragedies we reflected upon the Indigenous American people such as the Mayans, the Toltecs and the massacres of the Native people right here in Dallas, we touched upon Darfur, Polpot, Congo, Armenia, Rwanda, Falun Dafa, Burma, Tibet, Bosnia, India, Gaza and the transatlantic slave trade. Through these representative events, our goal was to reflect upon every human tragedy. The words do not describe the sufferings of people in full, we have to work with the limited choice of words, but have a big heart to feel the pain and suffering of every human being, not just my people or my tribe, but every one. Let there be one negative energy of suffering that we are part of, together we can work on getting out of it.
There is a shameless cruelty in us, either we shy away or some times refuse to acknowledge the sufferings of others, worrying that it will devalue our own or some how it amounts to infidelity to our own cause, and shame on us for justifying massacres that the victims deserved it or they asked for it.
We learned a few simple things that we can do to prevent such tragedies. It was a purposeful event to learn, acknowledge and reflect upon the terrible things that we humans have inflicted upon each other. We also learned that our safety hinges on the safety of all others around us.
We learned to see each other with dignity, and honor the otherness of other. Gatherings such as this offer hope and opportunity for a secure and a safer world.
Of the several acknowledgements, a few notable ones are;
1. other peoples suffering is as legitimate as ours;
2. some one related to us through faith, ethnicity, land mass or race has been a butcher too,
3. it takes courage to see ourselves as perpetrators, while it is easy to ourselves as victims;
4. we can see the light at the end of the tunnel when politics is stripped;
5. we can value others suffering without lessening our own;
6. the overriding desire to highlight my own gets softened, when we value others pain;
7. the sense of responsibility for creating a better world was present in us.
It is an initiative of American Muslims striving to build responsible civic societies. The event was organized by the Foundation for Pluralism, where co-existence is our value. We appreciate the sponsorship by the Center for Spiritual Living, all the three are Dallas based Organizations.
And to every community that has endured holocaust, genocides, massacres, bombs, annihilation, land mines, hunger, rape, torture, occupation and inhuman brutality, the least we can do in the process of healing is to acknowledge every one's pain in one room, as one people. We have to teach tolerance and acceptance.
We have begun the process of coming together as one people, to stand with you, we are indeed one world and one humanity, and caring for each other brings safety and peace to all of us. I cannot be safe if the people around me are not, and I will not have peace if people around me don't. It is in my interest to seek a peaceful world for one and all.
A full day conference is planned for Wednesday, January 26, 2011 to discuss every human tragedy, please submit a thoroughly researched 500 word abstract about the event you'd like to discuss to -HolocaustandGenocides@gmail.com
Mike Ghouse, Chair
Holocaust and Genocides
www.holocaustandGenocides.com
Good to hear about this fantastic initiative!
Indeed, more education and information about these tragedies is of utmost importance. Without such, the possibility that these horrific events can occur again is real. I hope that along with the history, a great deal of attention is placed on what allowed these events to occur, mainly, that people watched and did nothing. When we see people being persecuted, when we see people denied basic human rights, we must raise our voices and say "no!" The mantra associated with The Holocaust is "Never Again", yet to be true to the to the call, requires first that we even know about what happened, and second, that each of us take responsibility for our role.
I applaud these educational and participatory events, I encourage all to attend, and to speak out and speak up, for these atrocities still occur in our world today.
Len Ellis
Dallas Peace Center
Yes, we will attend. Sikhs are those who suffered because of religious and ethnic hatred. They like to join all to make it sure that the hatred is transformed into understanding of the human suffering all over the world. The idea of sharing the suffering of the world is a powerful one to move the world where such atrocities are never inflicted on any human being, and if and when it ever happens again, it may be shared by all.
Harbans Lal,
DFW Sikhs for Interfaith Understanding
As a Kashmiri Hindu, I applaud the mention of our plight at the reflection program on January 24, no one cares about our issue, it was a relief to see them mention it.
It is our duty, a moral obligation to acknolwedge the pain and suffering of all people. There is a shameless cruelty in us, either we shy away or some times refuse to acknowledge the sufferings of others, worrying that it will devalue our own or some how it amounts to infidelity to our own cause.
We all have to learn to see eye to eye, face to face, some one related to us via land mass, faith or race was a butcher, it does not mean, you and I are. We have to bring about a change by simply being human - feeling the pain of other no matter who it is, that is what makes us human.
We are looking forward to All day conference in January 2011 to acknowlege every human suffering, whether they are technically genocide or not. LIfe is precious and must be valued.
Mike Ghouse, Chair
Holocaust and Genocides
Dallas, Texas
www.HolocaustandGenocides.com