If your place of worship facilitates speakers who inculcate ill-will towards fellow beings, please speak up, it is a place to seek peace and not ill-will. Churches, Synagogues, Mosques, Temples have all inadvertently allowed such men to speak. Save sanctity of the place.

Tuesday, June 22, 2010

Hate talk from Israeli leaders

THE BLOG: HATE SERMONS
http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/

Hate peddling is unfortunately human, and doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with religion, any religion. As all the religions teach to overcome hate, here are some quotes about doing unto others. http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2008/03/hate-sermons-from-pulpit.html

No one needs to rejoice, gloat, stereotype or condemn the "other" without looking inward; the ugly ones are connected to each one of us, via belonging to the same nation, same religion, same race, continent or heck, the planet earth. Knowledge allows us to at least stop barking at others as we (each one of us) deserve to be barked at as well.

This blog was created to accumulate a list of all hate mongering dialogues and work on finding solutions, as most of it is rhetoric, neither the Jewish majority means to kill the Palestinians or Hamas means to drive Israel into the ocean (Check out the interviews with Charlie Rose). Both are stances taken to assert an extreme position. We do not have honest media, they are all paid staff to deliver what is told. Sadly they highlight the ugly statement of the other and fail in their responsibility of the vice-versa. Thank God, we have hope for mankind, there is BBC and PBS still delivering honest news.

I have included Kiran Kapoor’s quotes and it is the responsibility of each one of us to refute that which is un-truth. We have to work to create a better society. I invite any and all comments to share if the following comments are not true. Finding the truth is one's own responsibility.

We have to learn to accept that the statement is not made by you or me, but you and I have the responsibility to discourage and condemn all such statements without flinching, hesitating, corrupting or defending the men and women who have made such statements. This is the reason, you find me jump on every Muslim that makes hate statements.

We are all on the same side, to do good, to create a society of harmony, as it ensures safety to you, me and every one.

Mike Ghouse
http://www.mikeghouse.net/
http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/

http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2010/06/hate-talk-from-israeli-leaders.html

While we were discussing on Zakir Naik's hate speech, a few postings emerged quoting the Israeli leaders, I have asked every one on the face book and ask here to check the veracity of the statements and comment about it.

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=444779257773&comments#!/notes/mike-ghouse/zakir-naik-banned-from-toronto-conference/444779257773

On this blog: http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/2010/06/zakir-naik-banned-from-toronto.html
The sequence of the statements;
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Habib's words in English, " How can partial knowledge make one Zakir, Zakir is made through intellect." Please write in English.

Zakir is no doubt familiar with the technical knowlege of different religions, but has no ideas about the essence of the religion. He has demonstrateda complete lack of knowlege.

John Hagee has millions of followers like Naik and both have no idea of what Christianity and Islam stands for respectively.

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Kiran Kapoor:

I would love to enlighten one and all with some[i can quote dozens] of the shameless and inhumane examples of hate speech.Here they are...

1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a... See More few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001

2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.

7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969

8. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

9. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

10. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)

11. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

12. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

13. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

14. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.

15."One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

16. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).

17. "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).

18."Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset [Israeli Parliament] quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982

19."We enthusiastically chose to become a colonial society, ignoring international treaties, expropriating lands, transferring settlers from Israel to the occupied territories, engaging in theft and finding justification for all these activities. Passionately desiring to keep the occupied territories, we developed two judicial systems: one - progressive, liberal - in Israel; and the other - cruel, injurious - in the occupied territories. In effect, we established an apartheid regime in the occupied territories immediately following their capture. That oppressive regime exists to this day."
(Michael Ben-Yair, 3 March 2002)
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Our topic is Hate speech, and how we are going to deal with it, at least among the members who are accessing this thread. I have lauded the Canadian Government for banning Dr. Naik from participating in the conference.

I have deleted three comments that cursed out Muslims and Jews, that won’t add to the solutions.

Dialogue is the best available option where we can place all our cards on the table influenced by emotion, religion, injustice, frustration, anger etc… and it appears that we are placing a lot of cards.

We have a choice to be frustrated and run and that’s what we have been doing and it has not worked. Or we can face and listen to both sides and re-assess our opinions based on a full understanding of the situation.

If the goal is sustainable solutions, we need to hear opinions that we do not agree with and have the objective of finding solutions. We need to restrict speeches that are derogatory and cause misunderstandings.

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Mike Ghouse

KIRAN;
I AM NOT QUESTIONING YOU, BUT ARE THESE QUOTES AUTHENTIC? CAN YOU POST THE LINKS FOR AT LEAST THREE QUOTES? I WOULD ASK OTHERS TO REFUTE, IF THEY ARE NOT LEGITIMATE.
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Mike Ghouse

Here is another good piece in the Guardian

What do Dr Zakir Naik, Russian skinhead Pavel Skachevsky, far-right US talk show host Michael Savage, former Kahane Chai leader Mike Guzovsky and Kansas Baptist pastor Fred Phelps have in common? They are all on the list of people who have been banned from entering the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/jun/22/zakir-naik-preacher-free-speech

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Kiran Kapoor @Mike:

I don't play with truth nor do I distort truth to appease or ridicule a few over here who I'm sure are still not aware of the real hate speeches in the pages of time.

I personally agree with anyone who calls Americans[Read as zionist America] as terrorists.I can give historical evidences to prove my point.The world peace is in danger because of the deceptions,violence and lies of these two terrorist states,USA and Isreal.Anyone to challenge me on that?... See More

Well,Mike here is a great article on 'Israel's History in Quotes' where u can read more on hate speech.I think Dr Zakir Naik's words do not qualify as hate speech when u go thru these real fitting examples of hate speech in not so distant history.

Here is the link... http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2008/12/31/israel-s-history-in-quotes

1]"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]...............read it here........ http://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/28/world/west-bank-massacre-israel-orders-tough-measures-against-militant-settlers.html

2]In his book, “You Gentiles,” Maurice Samuel states the following of his people, the Jews,

“We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.”

Since 1922, Maurice Samuel worked as secretary to Chaim Weizmann, the leader of the World Zionist Movement....read this at..... http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/Synagogue.of.Satan/1920-1935.htm

3] [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982 at ZIONIST INCITEMENTS TO GENOCIDE....the link..... http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Martin_Webster_01.htm

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Robert Reno
Hi Mike, then add this to your list of hate speech too:"I personally agree with anyone who calls Americans [Read as zionist America] as terrorists." (Kirin Kapoor)If I say without qualification "Muslims are terrorists," or "Arabs are terrorists," or "Saudi Arabians are terrorists," or "Palestinians are terrorists," I am the author of hate ... See Morespeech. Hate speech uses stereotypes to demonize and label entire groups of or classes of people. It is the first step in dehumanizing them so that violence against them can be justified. Ironic, that Kirin rails against hate speech while giving vent to hate speech herself. And so the cycle of violence (verbal and physical)

Expressions such as these create an atmosphere of combustible intolerance: "Most Indians are drunks, but he's a hard worker"; "He may be a Jew, but he's not greedy"; "I'm usually careful around blacks, but he can be trusted." These statements reflect the same animosity as their more flagrant counterparts; "Indians are drunks," "Jews are greedy," ... See Moreand "blacks are dangerous."(....)

Oppressors justify inequities by making their targets out to be less than human, unworthy of fair treatment or even of mercy ordinarily shown to animals.... Negative stereotypes and ideological schemas, designed to rationalize power in the hands of dominant groups, precede crimes against humanity such as genocide. Many lives may be ruined before the views of those who rebuff popular prejudices trickle into the community conscience. Even societies striving for equality, steeped in natural rights theory, and vigilant against intolerant majorities are not wholly immune from becoming havens for supremacists promulgating aggressive ideologies. (Tsesis 2002: 2-3)--

Tsesis, Alexander. Destructive Messages: How Hate Speech Paves the Way for Harmful Social Movements.: New York University Press; 2002; pp. 2-3.
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- Robert,Indeed Kiran's statement amounts to hate speech and stereotyping. Thanks for bringing this up. Let's give her the room to clarify and share her thoughts.Zionism in its simplest form is the desire of the Jews in diaspora to live in their home land, indeed, that is the desire of most people; to be at home where they feel secure.

Zionism. encapsulates the dream of the Jewish people to have a homeland; it is an idea of life for the people. The Word Zionism conjures up different images to different people, we have to accept that bad elements are in every group, whether Zionism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism or others, we cannot brand the whole group for the acts of few, this amounts to stereotyping and it is wholesale prejudice.

Robert, I will post these three items from the thread at the blog site. Agree Hate messages are destructive to the society, especially on the Media and the mouths of the politicians, let's hope to work this up to a movement to to treat hate speech as an act of yelling fire in a crowded place
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Robert Reno
In fairness to Kiran, I have as an American at times in private become so angry with my political leaders (i.e., Bush and his war of choice, the biased and onesided foreign policy towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, etc.) that I have said some pretty ugly things directed toward Bush and others who facilitated injustice around the world.

I think Bush/Cheney are war crminals, but fully recognized that in the realpoltic world they will never face international justice. I am no stranger to her frustration.But when we fail to differentiate people from the actions of their political leaders, we all to easy fall into the trap of assuming that everyone supports the current policies of their government. That is simply not true, and if truth matters, which it does, then we should not overlook this simple fact.

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Mike Ghouse
- Robert, thanks for sharing your frustration. It irritates the heck out of me when some one blames America for the acts of a few, but we (our Media and our government representing us) do the same crap, retaliating the whole nation of Iraq, Iran or some one else for the acts of their dictators..

Bush was a "unilateralist" and his actions were anti-American, that is 72% of Americans did not approve his actions he still went ahead with it. What is the difference between him and Saddam? They were a dictatorship and we are a democarcy and bear the burden of the crimes committed in our name.I encourage dialogue, we should not be afraid of a dialogue, even if it is about hate speech. We should not shut any one, what is our fear?

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Window into Palestine

Hebrew essayist Achad Ha-Am, after paying a visit to Palestine in 1891:

"Abroad we are accustomed to believe that Israel is almost empty; nothing is grown here and that whoever wishes to buy land could come here and buy what his heart desires. In reality, the situation is not like this. Throughout the country it is difficult to find cultivable land which is not already cultivated."

Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry:

"Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."

The Balfour Declaration to Baron Rothchild, on the 2nd of November, 1917:

"His Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

Lord Sydenham, Hansard, House of Lords, 21 June 1922:

"If we are going to admit claims on conquest thousands of years ago, the whole world will have to be turned upside down."

Vladimir Jabotinsky, The Iron Wall, 1923:

"Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population - an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is our policy towards the Arabs..."

Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923:

"A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!... Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing."

David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985:

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."

Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department in 1940. From "A Solution to the Refugee Problem":

"Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them. Not one village, not one tribe should be left."

Israeli official Arthur Lourie in a letter to Walter Eytan, director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry (ISA FM 2564/22). From Benny Morris, "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem 1947-49", p. 297:

"...if people become accustomed to the large figure and we are actually obliged to accept the return of the refugees, we may find it difficult, when faced with hordes of claimants, to convince the world that not all of these formerly lived in Israeli territory. It would, in any event, seem desirable to minimize the numbers...than otherwise."

David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben- Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978:

"We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai."

David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157:
"We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

David Ben-Gurion, one of the father founders of Israel, described Zionist aims in 1948:

"A Christian state should be established [in Lebanon], with its southern border on the Litani river. We will make an alliance with it. When we smash the Arab Legion's strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo... And in this fashion, we will end the war and settle our forefathers' account with Egypt, Assyria, and Aram"

[Begin, and Yitzhak Shamir who were members of the party became Prime Ministers.] Albert Einstein, Hanna Arendt and other prominent Jewish Americans, writing in The New York Times, protest the visit to America of Menachem Begin, December 1948:

"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our time is the emergence in the newly created State of Israel of the Freedom Party (Herut), a political party closely akin in its organization, method, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties."

Martin Buber, Jewish Philosopher, addressed Prime Minister Ben Gurion on the moral character of the state of Israel with reference to the Arab refugees in March 1949:

"We will have to face the reality that Israel is neither innocent, nor redemptive. And that in its creation, and expansion; we as Jews, have caused what we historically have suffered; a refugee population in Diaspora."

Moshe Dayan (Israel Defense and Foreign Minister), on February 12 1952. Radio "Israel.":

"It lies upon the people's shoulders to prepare for the war, but it lies upon the Israeli army to carry out the fight with the ultimate object of erecting the Israeli Empire."

Martin Buber, to a New York audience, Jewish Newsletter, June 2, 1958:
"When we [followers of the prophetic Judaism] returned to Palestine...the majority of Jewish people preferred to learn from Hitler rather than from us."

Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas:

Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters"

Aba Eban (the Israeli Foreign Minister) stated arrogantly. New York Times June 19, 1967:

"If the General Assembly were to vote by 121 votes to 1 in favor of "Israel" returning to the armistice lines-- (pre June 1967 borders)

Dr. Israel Shahak, Chairperson of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights, and a survivor of the Bergen Belsen concentration camp, Commenting on the Israeli military's Emergency Regulations following the 1967 War. Palestine, vol. 12, December 1983:

"Hitler's legal power was based upon the 'Enabling Act', which was passed quite legally by the Reichstag and which allowed the Fuehrer and his representatives, in plain language, to be what they wanted, or in legal language, to issue regulations having the force of law. Exactly the same type of act was passed by the Knesset [Israeli's Parliament] immediately after the 1067 conquest granting the Israeli governor and his representatives the power of Hitler, which they use in Hitlerian manner."

Golda Meir, March 8, 1969:

"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to."

Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969:

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al- Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969:

"There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed"

Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972:

"The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war."

Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972:

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."

Joseph Weitz, Director of the Jewish National Fund, the Zionist agency charged with acquiring Palestinian land, Circa 194. Machover Israca, January 5, 1973 /p.2:

"The only solution is Eretz Israel [Greater Israel], or at least Western Eretz Israel [all the land west of Jordan River], without Arabs. There is no room for compromise on this point ... We must not leave a single village, not a single tribe."

Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979:

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out'"

Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982:

"[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."

Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983:

"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle."

Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983:

"We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours."

Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983:

"We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves."

Isreali Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir, in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988:

"The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."

Israeli Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, Inferring that killing isn't murder if the victim is Gentile. Jerusalem Post, June 19,1989:

"Jewish blood and a goy's [gentile's] blood are not the same."

Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, tells students at Bar Ilan University, From the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989:

"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."

Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service:

"The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the Jordan River for future generations, for the mass aliya [immigration], and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country."

Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15,1998:

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them."

Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000:

"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more"...

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000:

"If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force...."

Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001:

"There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies? Not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy."

Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio:

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

"Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum":

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."

Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5:

"There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. I tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary."

Ben Gurion:

In 1899, Davis Triestsch wrote to Herzl: " I would suggest to you to come round in time to the "Greater Palestine" program before it is too late... the Basle program must contain the words "Great Palestine" or "Palestine and its neighboring lands" otherwise it's nonsense. You do not get ten million Jews into a land of 25,000 Km2". " The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill -- From the Nile to the Euphrates."

Vladimir Jabotinsky (the founder and advocate of the Zionist terrorist organizations), Quoted by Maxime Rodinson in Peuple Juif ou Problem Juif. (Jewish People or Jewish Problem):

"Has any People ever been seen to give up their territory of their own free will? In the same way, the Arabs of Palestine will not renounce their sovereignty without violence."

David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121:

"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

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Monday, June 21, 2010

Zakir Naik banned from Toronto conference

We applaud the Canadian move on banning hate speeches.

It is our duty to keep law and order and faithfully guard the safety of every citizen. Hate is one of the many sources of disrupting the peace in a society and it is our responsibility to track down the source of such hate and work on mitigating it. We have an obligation to maintain a balance in the society. When we are at peace, we can generate peace and we can expect peace around us. Our words and actions should mitigate conflicts and nurture reconciliation and goodwill.

We must stand up and support free speech, but when it messes with the peace of the society, it is “free” no more, it ‘un-frees” people and slaves them to hate. A hate speech can create chaos and fear in the society as much as a man yelling in the crowd “Fire”. The issue must be of law and order.

If in fact Dr. Naik has said this non-sense, “There are many Jews who are good to Muslims, but as a whole, the Koran tells us, as a whole, they will be our staunchest enemy.” We condemn his statement without reservation.

God clearly and repeatedly says in Quraan that whether your are a Jew, Christian or otherwise, you are guaranteed a place in heaven provided you are good to fellow beings and your environment. That is the only requirment to earn the creator's grace; to be good to fellow beings.

He has a right to free speech, but not malign Islam with non-sense like this statement. Where the heck did he get his Islam from? Does the man understand Islam means peace? Does he understand that God is not prejudiced? It is men like him and a few who worked for the previous administration who chop up God into bits and pieces, your God v. my God.

Who wants a God that hates his own creation, he is reducing God to be his God, a bad guy and not beneficent and merciful God that adorns every chapter in Quraan. He does not get Islam right.

The overwhelming majority of Muslims show respect to all religions as the Prophet did, indeed, Muslims are forbidden to ridicule any religion.

I know I will be rebuked by a few right winger Muslims, so be it, I will not let any idiot make my faith or any one's faith to be misrepresented, and the universal God to be reduced to a God who tells bad things about his own creation? That is not Islam he is preaching. It is time we the moderates speak up and not twiddle our thumbs and let a few men get away from their non-sense.

Canada’s decision to ban Zakir Naik from Toronto conference is good news indeed. And I sincerely hope this will set the precedent to nail all the hate monger’s wearing masks of Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and other religions. They are a nuisance; individuals like Gabrielle Bridgette, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Nonie Derwish, Alan Dershowitz, Rod Parsely, John Hagee, Billy Graham Jr. and a whole lot more need to be analyzed for the hatred they breed. For a briefing on these men and women, please visit the blog: http://hatesermons.blogspot.com/

Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker, writer, optimist, educator and an activist of Pluralism, Justice, Islam, India, Peace and Civil Societies. He is a conflict mitigater and a goodwill nurturer offering pluralistic solutions on issues of the day and is a frequent guest on the media. Mike's work is reflected at three websites & twenty two Blogs listed at http://www.mikeghouse.net/

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June 21, 2010
Controversial Muslim televangelist
Zakir Naik banned from Toronto conference

Kathryn Blaze Carlson
The National Post, Toronto
http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/21/controversial-muslim-televangelist-zakir-naik-banned-from-toronto-conference/

An Indian Muslim televangelist who was banned from Britain last week for “unacceptable behaviour” will not be allowed into Canada to speak at an upcoming conference in Toronto, sources familiar with the situation have told the National Post.

Dr. Zakir Naik, who has said “every Muslim should be a terrorist” and that Jews are “our staunchest enemy,” was to headline next month’s Journey of Faith Conference — which is billed as one of North America’s largest Islamic conferences and is expected to attract upward of 10,000 people.

Dr. Naik, the Mumbai-based founder of Peace TV and a widely respected lecturer in India, has a laundry list of views that could have led to his exclusion from the U.K. and Canada, both of which require an Indian citizen to obtain a visitor visa.

The 44-year-old medical doctor recommends capital punishment for homosexuals and the death penalty for those who abandon Islam as their faith.

He has said that a man is within his right to beat his wife “lightly,” though in a July 2009 YouTube video he cautioned against hitting her on the face or leaving a mark. The “Keep Zakir Naik Out of Canada” Facebook group, which was launched over the weekend, also points out his view that western women make themselves “more susceptible to rape” by wearing revealing clothing.

Among the chief reasons, British Home Secretary Theresa May decided to quash Dr. Naik’s U.K. speaking tour later this month, however, were comments he made in a widely circulated 2007 video.

“If [Osama bin Laden] is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him … If he is terrorizing a terrorist, if he is terrorizing America the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, I am with him,” said Dr. Naik, who has delivered hundreds of talks in India, Canada, the U.S. and the Middle East. “Every Muslim should be a terrorist.”

Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, said he and the congress have been informed that Dr. Naik will be “stopped at the airport,” and sources familiar with the situation confirmed Dr. Naik does not have a visa to enter Canada.

“We are very happy that government agencies, having been made aware of his statements, have taken this decision,” Mr. Fatah said, adding that he sent a mass email to federal MPs last week, warning them of Dr. Naik’s views. “We certainly don’t want hate-mongers to come here.”
“To me, the rules as to who can come into this country were written for this kind of person,” echoed Bernie Farber, CEO of the Canadian Jewish Congress. “The comments are highly inflammatory, and highly provocative. When you put them together in one cauldron, you have a stew of hatred.”

Dr. Naik, president of the Islamic Research Foundation in Mumbai, was reached via email on Monday but would not comment on his pending visit to Toronto. In fact, Dr. Naik may not yet know that he is unwelcome in Canada, sources said.

In his email to the National Post, Dr. Naik pointed to a June 20 statement regarding the “overzealous and islamophobic exclusion order” issued by the U.K. The statement seeks to clarify his comments, which the foundation argues were “taken out of context.”

The Journey of Faith Conference is chaired by Imam Saed Rageah, whose Toronto mosque, the Abu Huraira Centre, made headlines last fall after a group of young worshippers vanished and were feared to have joined a Somali militant group. Imam Ragaeh declined an interview request yesterday, but passed along a web video via email of Dr. Naik defending his comments and promising to challenge the U.K. ban.

According to the Journey of Faith event website, the “hope” of the July 2-4 conference at the downtown Metro Toronto Convention Centre is for Muslims to “renew their forgotten relationship” with the Quran. As of last night, the site still listed Dr. Naik as a featured speaker.
Citizenship and Immigration Canada declined to comment on the case yesterday, citing the Privacy Act.
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Monday, June 7, 2010

HAGEES HATE SERMONS ON PBS

John Hagee again

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/watch2.html

Has any one investigated Hagee's motivation for his crusade? Is it the lavish life style?

What is he getting out of preaching hate?
How is he anything less than those terrorists who want to annhilate others?
Isn't he terrorizing the other people living in Israel?

I do hope that a majority of this attendees are for entertainment and his oratory skills and not bleieve in hate and destruction of God's universe.

I pray that God guides him to be a man of peace, he can turn his passion into peace for the people out there. Israel can be secure, if they can take a firm stand to follow the rule of law and justice for all.